Yet another example of what the gospel is NOT.

Meet Charles L. Worley. He pastors Providence Road Baptist Church in North Carolina and he apparently has no idea what the grace of the gospel of Jesus Christ is.

Mr. Worley, have you forgotten the pit of depravity from which God saved you, or is your lack of mercy a sign that you have yet to receive God’s grace yourself?

There is a striking irony about Mr. Worley’s suggestion during his “sermon” that homosexuals be imprisoned behind fences till they die out (an irony similar to the obnoxious street preacher we featured a few days ago). The irony is that one day in the near future it is very likely that Christians will be imprisoned in America for their faith, and it will be men like these that will have proven to be instrumental in–and the justification for–the passing of legislation needed to criminalize Christianity.

13 thoughts on “Yet another example of what the gospel is NOT.

  1. I am “agin it” too. However, I am also against drunkenness, blasphemy, lying, killing. I also think the Lord doesn’t hate any of us but he does hate our sins. We are all sinners in need of a Savior!

  2. It’s “tuff” to pray for people that tighten our jaws, but if anyone needs it, Mr. Worley certainly does. In the grand scheme he doesn’t realize that homosexuality is no worse than any other sin!
    Hopefully he’ll learn to seek the unlovely and desire their salvation!

  3. I would give this man, and Mr. Bullhorn in the other video, the benefit of the doubt – but there is no doubt here. They are false teachers and blasphemers, seeking to destroy the good name of Christ through their associating with it. Whether or not they are aware they are seeking this is largely irrelevant.

    To any who do not immediately and instinctively agree with my statement, let me ask a question to you: if you wanted to destroy the good name of Christ, what would you do that they are not doing?

  4. The guy sound’s like he’s been listening to Fred Phelps!

    My wife and I do a “book table” ministry in Iowa City, at a “pedestrian mall” which is park-like. We give out free Christian books (there is no Christian book store in that extreme liberal town) and by sitting there we will have people engage us in conversations about the faith. It gives us much opportunity to preach the gospel and also to correct misunderstandings about the various charges against the Church. It’s a great place to practice apologetics!

    For a few years there were two guys from a very legalistic KJVO church who carried a sign across the street from us, condemning homosexuality with the usual posted rhetoric being about “gays” going to hell (Iowa City is a haven of homosexuality – pretty much a “San Francisco Midwest”). These two men caused us no end of consternation, but in a way it was beneficial because people would come to us as if we were part of that “bigotry” and we were able to give good presentations about sin in general and were able to point out that no one goes to hell because they practice homosexuality, but because they are sinners without a savior!

    Well, I finally decided to confront these two “gentlemen” and asked them why they singled out homosexuality – after all, there are probably a lot more fornicators in Iowa City (with its liberal University of Iowa) than those who practiced homosexuality. Believe it or not, that thought stopped them in their tracks! Which opened up a good conversation about how their actions were causing more offense than good and was actually turning people away from any message they may have about the Gospel. They have never returned with the sign – now they just hand out tracts (normal “easy believeism” types).

    My point is this: I wonder if anyone has ever talked to these two men you’ve highlighted, about their behavior? It’s a good possibility they would refuse to listen because they are much more belligerent that the two I approached, and they might be more like Fred Phelps and through hate at those trying to correct them. But I think it is worth a try, whenever Christians see such behavior, to confront the people with rebuke and correction.

  5. I am not sure of the depth of this. I do acknowledge what the Holy Spirit taught through the written Word and what I have experienced with my own sinful body and the damage I have done to myself by this sort of sin, not homosexuality for me but general lust for women not my wife when reading these verses of Scripture:

    1Co_6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

    There, here, is a distinction that seems to be glossed over for the present time and missed that that Pastor in his presentation about what is to be done to those wretched sinners. I noticed he does not include himself in that works righteousness remedy.

    All sin, if you die in your sins, brings the eternal wrath of God upon your spirit, soul and body. This wrath is for the rest of your eternity suffering the consequences of your sins in the lake of fire where Satan and his angels will end up, too if you will not repent and receive forgiveness for your sins.

    All sorts of sins can be forgiven but that one, to sin against the Holy Spirit. I do not believe homosexuality or any sexual immorality is that one.

    But, here in 1 Corinthians we have a clear distinction being made with regard to the sins of sexual immorality. I do not believe adultery and homosexuality have a clear and separate distinction, but rather, both are damaging to one’s body in this life and as all sin, if you die in your sins you are damaging your Divine experiences in both this life and the next.

    The Good News about all this and it is my opinion if we lift up the Scriptures appropriately they give us hope to be delivered from all sorts of sins so as to have Peace with God to live in His Divine Nature in both this life and the next:::>

    1Co 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
    1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
    1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

    And also I would make a point about that Pastor and the way the world is going about judging one’s behavior by bringing such condemnation narrowly upon a particular sinful behavior, which is not wise. In the last days we shall see an increase of all sorts of sinful behavior across the board. See 1 Timothy 4 and 2 Timothy 3 and Jude as examples of what I reference. It can be taken one of two ways in the world depending on which foundation your house is built. It can be taken as a gathering storm, that is, being able to read the signs of the times; or, as labor pains that have come upon a woman about to give birth to a child. In that instance, the giving birth of the child is like leaving one house for another, as in:::>

    Isa_65:17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.

    2Pe_3:13 But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

  6. Some people can’t seem to get rid of that log out of their own eye can they.

    1Co 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
    1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
    1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

    There are MANY people who WERE homosexuals and are now SAVED. For God’s GRACE is beyond all our sins….This man obviously has singled out homosexuality. So what about all the sins he’s committed? Does he not know that he is just as filthy if he’s ever lied or stolen anything? Does he not know that if he’s ever lusted in his heart with another woman he’s committed adultery? Does he not know that if he’s ever been angry with someone he’s a murderer? I just wonder if people like this guy really know how lurid our OWN sins are against a Holy, righteous and Just GOD? Having such a low view of one’s own sins and comparing someone else’s as WORSE just reminds me of Luke 18 of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector who went in the Temple to pray. And we all know the story. If not look up Luke 18.

    Tts 3:5 ,,,”he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,

    Jam 2:12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,
    Jam 2:13 because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!”

    Now, I don’t know this man’s heart, but I fear for people like this and believe the most macabre moment for them will be that they think they are saved. all this time they have been preaching and condemning people to hell and they themselves are going to hell. How utterly frightening….

    Mic 6:8 “He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.”

  7. The only real distinction i can make about homosexuality from other sexual sins is that todays society wants our approval of this sin through extensive social engineering and hate crime laws.They don’t seem to care if we disaprove of sexual immorality and depravity in general and call those sins but homsexuality has a special status where it is becoming a crime to say its a sin. This is just an observation and one of the reasons i feel that many Christians focus more on homosexuality than other sexual sins as this is mirrowing what is happening in society. Of course they try to normalise other sexual sins too but do tolerate dissent, they will not tolerate any dissent from calling homosexuality a sin however.
    As i say this just an observation of the times and that is all, Other than that i fully agree with the comments on here and the Opening Post.
    Isaiah 5:20
    “Woe to them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter”

  8. I may have a little different perspective here, and I trust you all will indulge me for a moment. I listened and watched this video, and I will say this: I don’t disagree with everything he said from his pulpit. To clarify one point….I don’t believe all homosexuals should be confined to some “internment” camp until they all “die-out.”

    Realize the guy was delivering a message, and the video snip was a 2 minute, out of context, snapshot of his entire sermon. I don’t know the contents of the rest of the sermon. I will concede that his choice of words was dileterious, and definitely not ‘seasoned with salt.’ I don’t think his point, however, should be missed. He was stating his position, the Bible’s position, and God’s position on homosexuality. Further, he shared his political persuasion as being a “values voter.”

    I do not agree with some earlier assertions that homosexuality is no different or more heinous than other sins. I believe the Bible teaches that some sins are indeed more of an abomination to the Lord than others. Although all sin merits the death penalty and requires the blood of Christ for expiation, God’s Word reveals that some sins are indeed worse than others. Some sins have greater consequences to the sinner, as well as to those his sin affects. From the judgments God makes regarding certain sins, we will see that some sins bring stiffer penalties and greater condemnation.

    I believe the classification of sexual sin (i.e. sodomy, infidelity, lust, etc.) will be punished more severely than “run of the mill” sins (i.e. discontentment, gossip, bitterness, etc.).

    I won’t cite a whole bunch of passages here, but there are many. I’ll leave it up to each reader to go “unearth” them from the Scriptures. I would also recommend the following book for related reading: The Stain That Stays by John Armstrong. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1857925831/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books

    Todd
    Texas

  9. I just see it like this: Unless we ourselves get a clear view of our utter abject abysmal condition by God granting us a glimpse of the light of the gospel of the Glory of God in the face of Christ, we CANNOT get a true measurement of our OWN sins before a Holy God. Once we DO and we SEE our own sins, there is no room to measure how awful others are. When we receive God’s GRACE and he forgives us of all our sins the mere JOY and thankfulness is so overwhelming that God forgave ME much less others. For anyone to have the attitude of judging others like he has by singling out homosexuals, is repulsive to me since it implies that this man himself has NOT seen how ugly and deplorable his OWN sins were /are to GOD. People who have been forgiven of their infinite debt don’t go around condemning people. They long for people to be set FREE from their debt of sin also. So I have a bit of concern whenever a person calls themselves a Christian and yet condemns certain sinners to be killed. Jesus died for homosexuals also.

    this pastor needs to catch a glimpse of a high and holy God.

  10. Linda, excellente’!

    I think of these Words from John 3:17 when reading what you wrote above:

    Joh 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

    We are to judge the world and in fact we will as we will judge angels, too!

    The difference, it seems to me when I am judging another man’s nature is I am judging that nature absent specific condemnation of their nature seeing Adam is mankind’s Federal Head in nature.

    We both have touched on 1 Corinthians 6, “…being washed, being sanctified, being justified by the blood of Christ and the Spirit of God…”.

    I have done business, ministry outreach, into the gay and lesbian communities. As with all fallen communities of sinners, birds of a feather flock together as fish in a pond, this pond in particular, has it’s own bait and hook the fisherman uses fishing it.

    Having fished rivers and streams and the mighty Pacific Ocean, I can tell you that one line and hook and bait won’t work in all waters. One uses a different line, bait and hook in the mighty sea than one uses in a pond stocked with fish or when fishing the rivers and streams.

  11. Oh michael, don’t start with fishing or we will hijack this thread. I love fishing (saltwater fishing mostly). I completely understand what you mean with lures and baits etc. Can’t use the same bait for king makerel as you do for flounder or red fish….lol

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