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Come on, everybody say: God’s Big!

Description of the video by its editor:

“Narcigesis” is a term I recently heard to describe the sermons being pumped out of many Christian churches these days. It’s short for narcissistic eisegesis which is when a pastor reads his own ideas into the text with a primary focus on the self, rather than God. This is a perfect example from a Joel Osteen style pastor by the name of Kevin Gerald.

As far as I know, Ken Silva coined the term, “narcigesis” – I think it’s highly descriptive of what passes for preaching in far too many churches.

May God have mercy on the people sitting and listening to this man.

About Manfred

Reformed Baptist, married to one woman since 1978, enjoy camping, motorcycle riding, solid books that assist in understanding the Word of God, fellowship with the Lord's saints, and some classical music. A wretch saved by grace, with nothing to give my Lord except my sin.

14 comments on “Come on, everybody say: God’s Big!

  1. In your “about” it states, “solid books that assist in understanding the Word of God”…. Perhaps you should read some solid books that assist you in sharing and spreading the Word of God, rather than being critical. It’s convenient for us to pick and choose what snippets we decide to share with everyone and then proceed to tell everyone what the pastor is saying or really means, basically doing the same thing we accuse the pastor of doing…. in this case Kevin Gerald. Possibly you need some reformation in your grace theology and a little more study of how Jesus taught the masses and his disciples. Yes, he did quote old testament laws/teachings/prophecy and things that the Jewish leaders and people would clearly understand. Then Jesus used practical application and parables to convey the point and drive it home. When you condemn Kevin Gerald for simplifying things down (basic scientific properties, etc), what you are saying is he should assume everyone is highly intelligent in the church and need not be taught in such a condescending way. I would contend that you are inaccurate in your thinking and in your understanding of teaching biblical truths. While you and I might be fine with skipping the seemingly inane details of common knowledge and going right to deep, theological, advanced bible college teaching, most believers in all churches worldwide are not as spiritually mature and need “milk”. Small groups or groups designed for spiritually similar people are where we tend to grow deeper spiritual roots, outside of our own personal devotions and studies, whether we are milk drinkers or meat eaters.

    It’s unfortunate that we spend so much of our time in meaningless endeavors that don’t edify or build the church, but cause division and strife amongst believers. It’s no wonder the world looks at many of us and says, “Really? You want me to be like you and you’re supposed to be like Christ? If you represent Christ, no thanks.” We need more of Christ’s love, both in us and coming out of us. We can’t reflect light if it’s not first in us.

    In His Grip

  2. Wow…I truly think Kevin Gerald could be Joel Osteen’s brother….how similar they sound! :( Disheartening, truly. It saddened me that there were people actually taking *notes* on what he said!

    @James,
    In kindness, I ask if you truly watched the video…the whole thing? The main focus wasn’t on things being simplified…but that Gerald took things out of context, didn’t even mention the name of Jesus and of course, came to the issue of money. It seems Gerald’s whole “sermon” could rest on: “God’s big, Give big (to our specific church)”.
    It is not meaningless to bring to light wrong teaching. So many get sucked in and believe false teachers. If we truly love in Christ, do we just pretend that false teachers are okay?

  3. There are few things more disturbing than the Word of God in the hands of a word of faith prosperity peddler. Sadly , the hosts exegesis on passages ripped out by Gerald, are lost on those folks , it seems to me that the WOFer’ s are just getting a little more creative in how they extract $$$$ from the unsuspecting.
    To James statement above that we need more of Christ’s love , so true , but remember that the love often spoken of in the scripture , is the love of the truth.

  4. James – you have no idea how my time is spent, so I will let your rebuke to me fall. Kevin Gerald doesn’t serve the milk of the Word of God. He serves rat poison covered with religious lies he learned from Satan. There is no place in the kingdom of God for such charlatans.

  5. There is no place in the kingdom of God for him, but there is in hell.

  6. “Perhaps you should read some solid books that assist you in sharing and spreading the Word of God, rather than being critical. It’s convenient for us to pick and choose what snippets we decide to share..”

    Ah,the the old and tired bait/switch, attack person/not subject, red herring at work. Seriously, did this fellow not even see the irony of doing exactly what he was accusing another of?

    “Then Jesus used practical application ..”

    This is a liberal meme. Got a scripture and exegesis for that claim?

    ” I would contend that you are inaccurate in your thinking and in your understanding of teaching biblical truths…”

    Yet James doesn’t deem it necessary to prove or state his attack, err I mean contention, even withing the confines of the OP statements.

    ” While you and I might be fine…most believers in all churches worldwide are not as spiritually mature and need “milk”.”

    Thereby reserving to himself some gnosis or training that the rest of us don’t have. To top it off he adds the OP, so he looks humble, and not alone.

    “Small groups or groups designed for spiritually similar people…”

    Like Christians perhaps?

    “It’s unfortunate that we spend so much of our time in meaningless endeavors that don’t edify or build the church, but cause division and strife amongst believers.”

    Here we are, back to point one. If it is such a meaningless OP, why does he respond to it? And why does he use “we”?

    ” It’s no wonder the world looks at many of us and says, “Really? You want me to be like you and you’re supposed to be like Christ? If you represent Christ, no thanks.”

    With all due respect sir, I would expect the world to react this way, and it has, and does. If it does not, something is wrong. If they wanted it, how is it offensive to the natural man. It is not us or our testimony, it is the word of God that saves.

  7. Amen Manfred and michael henry. “There is a way that seems right to a man…” – how much more so in “church”

  8. As a child of God, I have an inheritance of eternal life with God the Father through Jesus Christ. I have absolutely no right, however, to a big screen television, the latest high tech gadgets, a trendy vehicle, or a fancy state-of-the art modernized church auditorium. When a preacher starts fixating on “abundance” as the world defines abundance, he is only a short step from telling you that if you want to “live in increase” you had better start giving more money.

  9. Any gospel that will not “sell” as well among believers in Bangladesh, or Phnom Penh, Cambodia, as in Orange County, Calif. or Tulsa Oklahoma, is not the true gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ!

  10. http://www.hark.com/clips/txjgqfjhvz-well-what-is-it#?clip=xhmbydkvwr

    couldn’t help it, but this episode of Andy Griffeth kept coming to my mind. :)

    Sorry wrong clip…this one I meant: http://www.hark.com/clips/txjgqfjhvz-well-what-is-it#?clip=xhmbydkvwr

  11. Kevin Gerald was my pastor for over 20 years, and I have prayed for many years for people to see the truth! He will be exposed to the fullest light because that is What the Word of God says, and it will not and does not return void! When I think of all the hardship I suffered, and people who turned their back on our family because we don’t believe the lies anymore, It makes me so sad. Sad to watch peoples lives being ruined and they just keep drinking the koolaide! People are brainwashed and worship Kevin and sheila, hanging on every thing they say and do. It makes me sick to my stomach to think of it, but I called them out in a letter and told them they have a spirit of Jezebel in that place!

  12. Melinda, I too was once a member of Geralds’s churc, I say Gerald’s because it is certainly not God’s. We left for the same reason as you. We also called him out on his false teaching. In answer to my prayer to The Lord “what is wrong here?” A wolf in sheep’s clothing was the answer. Enough said!

  13. Ladies, (and others) I also attended CC for nearly a decade and was very close to and active with leadership. I am the last to jump on a negative bandwagon but I feel compelled to share, this is not an isolated type of message -at all. This could have been any and every Sunday and I think this guy whoever he is that did the video, did a good job.

    In the past at CC ‘creative writing’ teams consisting of people with little fruit, let alone biblical theology, assisted (maybe still do) Kevin with topically themed messages weeks and months in advance complete with secular turned christian music specials and snappy illustrative popular movie clips. Not sure that’s how Paul prepared his messages….Just like in the video at 10:20 where Kevin teases the ‘miserly’ he routinely uses the pulpit, called a stage at CC with him. I’m positive of this as there is even a sermon series that I’ve sat through twice over the years, specifically about people who essentially are irritating, or church shop or are by their terms negative. I’m sure they’ve updated for media driven responses such as this where people blog ‘against’ CC, probably some caricature with a lady with a name like ‘Blogging Betty’…spreading that ‘blasphemy’….they purposefully create messages like that to preempt people with adverse responses, make them look stupid with intentions to suppress and oppress. It’s abusive and wrong. Among all the types of things pointed out in the video, Scripture used out of context etc there are crazy politics, nepotism, narcissism, greed, addiction, disorder, spiritual abuse, its a hot mess…the list sadly goes on and on. I pray for their sake Jesus doesn’t come too soon for this church gone wild and shepherd gone astray to repent.

    Sadly as believers begin to really READ the Word this type of teaching and ‘community’ will not be tolerated and really it shouldn’t be. I pray God will continue to counter lies with truth, and deliver His people.

  14. It is disturbing to hear that this trash is still being pushed on people, however it is as we are told in scripture things would be as we approach the end times. BTW Gerald is close friends with Osteen….kinda makes you wonder who is teaching who? Also for those who are not aware…the so called law of attraction taught by Osteen and I believe Gerald has referred to it as well, is an occultic practice used by practitioners of Wicca, it is easy to look up. Too many so called pastors are propigating this lie from the pit. I wonder if they really believe they are scriptual.

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