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Edging even closer to Revelation 13.

My Amillennial friends may not be interested in this, but for the rest of you I thought you’d like to see how much closer we’ve come to Revelation 13.

In his article, Cashless Society: India Implements First Biometric ID Program for all of its 1.2 Billion Residents, Alex Jones writes:

“Over the past few months, I have written several articles dealing with the coming cashless society and the developing technological control grid. I also have written about the surge of government attempts to gain access to and force the use of biometric data for the purposes of identification, tracking, tracing, and surveillance. Unfortunately, the reactions I receive from the general public are almost always the same. While some recognize the danger, most simply deny that governments have the capability or even the desire to create a system in which the population is constantly monitored by virtue of their most private and even biological information. Others, either gripped by apathy or ignorance, cannot believe that the gadgets given to them from the massive tech corporations are designed for anything other than their entertainment and enjoyment.”

Continue reading Jones’ article here.


“And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. ┬áHere is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.”

- Revelation 13:16-18

13 comments on “Edging even closer to Revelation 13.

  1. Yep, just keeps getting closer and closer.

  2. Jesus clearly warns in the gospels of the signs of the endtimes. And with all that, there are those who profess Christ, that are so drunk with the delights of this world, that they cannot see the obvious.

    Lord Jesus help us to watch and pray. And Lord, come quickly.

  3. Yes, and the U.S. is getting closer too: Obama to hand Commerce Dept. authority over cybersecurity ID http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20027800-281.html?tag=topTechContentWrap%3BeditorPicks

  4. I am not an amillennialist. Instead, I am a historic premillennialist. So, I do believe in a literal tribulation with a literal, personal future anti-Christ. However, I do not believe in a rapture that will allow Christians to escape the tribulation. Rather than interpreting “tribulation” to mean punishment of the wicked, I interpret it to mean “trial.” So, the “great tribulation” will be a time of great testing and trial for the world AND the church. (The world will fail, the church will succeed because of what Jesus Christ did on Calvary and by the perseverance of the saints through the Holy Spirit.) And Revelation does speak of Christians who will suffer martyrdom and other trials during this great tribulation. The idea that there will be “tribulation saints” that are evangelized by the 144,000 Jews, and that these will be the ones to suffer martyrdom instead of the church that is raptured away … I call that creative hermeneutics. Jesus Christ also spoke of such Christians during the tribulation, saying that the days of the great tribulation would be cut short for their sakes, otherwise no one would survive it. And that is the context in which Paul wrote the “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed” of 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 and also 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17’s “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” Those who will not sleep and those who are alive and remain refer to Christians that will survive the great tribulation.

    One caveat: the great tribulation will happen after the falling away, the great apostasy of 2 Thessalonians 2:3. So there won’t be that many Christians left during the great tribulation. Concerning the words of Jesus Christ in the Olivet discourse that the end will not come until after His gospel has been taken to all the nations for a witness (Matthew 24:14) the falling away will happen after the great commission has been completed, or has been very nearly completed.

    So while the worldly technological breakthroughs such as this – plus the EU’s attempts to create a cashless economy ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/6968143/Is-a-cashless-society-on-the-cards.html ), political events, social trends, wars, natural disasters, disease outbreaks, climate changes etc. can certainly serve as signs to the times, what we non-amillennialists really need to keep an eye on is signs of the falling away/great apostasy and the fulfillment of the great commission. Concentrate on the other stuff, and the result may be missing the forest for the trees! After all, Revelation 2-3 doesn’t deal with the conditions of the world – though in fairness the Olivet discourse does – but rather the church. According to some teachers, the Laodicean church represents the last stage in church history just before the great apostasy of the falling away. (Note that the Philadelphia church, addressed immediately before the Laodicean one, is the one that Jesus Christ states will be kept from “the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” Now this is where it gets a little amusing: rapture adherents refer to Revelation 3:10 as evidence that the church will be raptured away and escape tribulation. But what of the Laodiceans, who will still be there? Also, note the apparent spiritual decline, particularly from Smyrna – a flawed but still strong assembly, and to a lesser extent this was also true of Ephesus – to Philadelphia – about whom all can be said is “or thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name” – to Laodicea, which is right at the precipice of apostasy. It reminds me of the declining spiritual condition of Israel first during the time of the judges, and then during the time of the monarchy.

    Sorry for such a long comment. (It should have been a post on my own somewhat neglected blog!)

  5. I believe that the Amill position is the only biblical interpretation , and this does not only interest me , but concerns me , that an incorrect exegesis of these passages will lead many to completely miss what God is saying here. Rather than allowing our cultural paradigm to interpret what it is to ” buy and sell” , we really should be letting the scriptures define what buying and selling means . Only then will we get an insight into what the ” mark” is.

  6. Oh, but I’m a pretrib hallejulah train rapture fanatic, and right now we are in the fulfill god’s dream phase so it won’t really get bad for us cuz we will be taken aaaawwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy!
    It is only for those who realize we are gone and can count to 7 who will see trouble, but thank god they will be o.k…..even though they choose jesus for what he can do for them…not who he is! After all isn’t it all about us?!?! :)

  7. I like it Mr Job! So Amen brother!

  8. I am of the Amill. position…but even so, I (for wisdom’s sake) won’t be having anything sticking to me! ;)

  9. I’m not one to allegorize Scripture that has no clear internal evidence of allegory, nor literalize what is allegorical (7 headed beast, etc.). And Revelation certainly contains both (we can neither say it is ALL allegorical, nor ALL literal). But I for one would fear and tremble to tell others that there is no literal thousand years when the Lord specifically states a thousand year span, or to say there is no mark of the beast when the Lord says there is, or that there will be no literal return of Christ, etc. Nor am I one to take the 7 churches and liken them to 7 periods of church history when there is no internal evidence for doing so. So, yes, I take these “signs of the times” as things to seriously consider. Thanks for sharing, Pilgrim.

  10. I like how Jesus compares it to a woman in labor. Each event brings it closer to the actual birth. You may say the world is at 5 cm and I may say the world is at 6 cm, but the point is that each contraction brings the birth closer.

  11. DavidW,

    I wanted to respectfully comment on this one sentence you have stated above:

    “But I for one would fear and tremble to tell others that there is no literal thousand years when the Lord specifically states a thousand year span, or to say there is no mark of the beast when the Lord says there is, or that there will be no literal return of Christ, etc.”

    Comparing Christ’s return to the meaning of the millennium or the mark of the beast is a poor comparison. We see Christ himself stating His return and numerous NT passages stating his return, where as the millennium and the mark are easily seen as figurative language within Revelation alone. I understand what you mean and your intention, but I think that it is apples and oranges.

    I am one who was total dispensational early on, but now believes in a non-literal 1000 year reign and a non-literal mark and certainly don’t fear and tremble at teaching such things from the Word as there is a mountain of evidence in a Convent Theology perspective towards a non-literal 1000 year reign. I personally can’t, in good conscience, teach a pre-trib rapture, post trib 1000 year reign. My belief changed as I studied scripture.

    So, all that is to say that Premil does currently have the attention of the media and the big churches and many seminaries and many denominations, but I think you’ll find many awesome teachers of the Word hold to a radically different and misunderstood position to premil and that it is a respected position defended Biblically throughout history. I think we can safely agree to disagree on the point and debate it vigorously, but I pray we never imply Amil or Covenent Theology is heresy or source for division.

    Just a different perspective for you to chew on. :)

    In the love of Christ,
    -atg

  12. It is essential that we read thoroughly into what Revelation 13 (specifically, verses 11 through 18). Simple implementations like Biometric IDs and whatnot do not necessarily mean that we are closer to seeing the beast; instead, what we have to watch out for is what would be coupled with the change. John writes that the beast, which came from out of the earth, will be enforcing this mandate [with] forced idolatry and worship of the first beast and those who do not partake will be killed.

    We must read the Scripture in the proper context, especially when relating it to our lives.

    God bless.

  13. atg:

    Thanks for the comment on my comment. But there seems to be some misunderstanding I’d like to hopefully (and briefly) clear up.

    We all have to determine by the Scriptures under prayer and the Holy Spirit’s guidance what is literal and what is figurative in Revelation, and granted, it takes a great deal of prayer and study. My point was that I (me personally) cannot in good conscience allegorize what the Lord has said, when I have no clear Scriptural evidence to do so. If others do, that is between them and the Lord. But my intent was not to infer that those who allegorize certain elements of Revelation are heretics, and I do apologize if that’s how it came across. The issue of apples to oranges regarding the millenial reign of Christ is a whole other thing. Suffice it to say, we could go round and round ad nauseam to the benefit of no one, and I don’t intend to do that here.

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