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voddie-baucham How does a mother build biblical truth into her daughter’s life, nurture her, guard her, and encourage her toward the application of that truth, then send her into an environment that will oftentimes by its very nature be hostile or at least ambivalent toward that truth? How does a father raise his son to respect young women and protect their purity only to send them off to the youth building with exposed midriffs, low-cut tops, and skin-tight jeans?

- Voddie Baucham

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  1. Oh how I agree with these words! :)

  2. There you go again – putting my pastor on your blog. He might get the big head. On second thought, that’s not likely with Voddie because he has been and continues to be a humble man who is confident in the Lord and His revealed Word.

  3. I’m sure there’s context to this quote, but I’m left scratching my head a little bit. The environment of the entire fallen world system is hostile to Biblical truth, because it lies in Satan’s lap. Maybe this is a specific polemic about modesty within the visible professing church?

    In Christ,
    CD

  4. CD,

    The opening phrase tells you the context, which is within the professing church: “How does a mother build biblical truth into her daughter’s life”. A worldling will not care about building biblical truth in his/her children.

  5. Thanks Manfred. I would normally think that Christian fathers and mothers would build biblical truth into the lives of the children God has given them in any and every context. I’m sure you and Voddie would agree.

    On my first reading it seemed the hostile / ambivalent environment the hypothetical children were being sent into was the focus of the polemic, which gave me pause to question the context from whence the quote was taken. At any rate, it’s a sad day when the lines between the world and the visible professing church have been so badly blurred that it’s often difficult to tell where one ends and the other begins. I think we need fewer bridge builders and more wall builders.

    In Him,
    CD

  6. The following comment is not meant to be inflamatory, but don’t those mid-riff top, wearing teens need to hear the gospel as much as our modestly dressed teens? I feel some commentaries on this topic creep far into the legalistic realm, and don’t show a heart of grace and compassion for the lost world. The teens may be there because a believing friend brought them, a kind neighbor who could see this teen was struggling through their parents divorce, it could be a girl from a woman’s neighborhood, teen-girl, Biblestudy, etc. We are to reach out to the lost and not to look from afar with disdain.
    The wardrobe could also be a sign of a lack of spiritual growth or a new Christian. It could be a girl that is lapsing into worldy ideals and a youth or Sunday school teacher could have the opportunity to kindly admonish this young woman.
    How about advocating for more mature Christian adults, not youths, or barely out of youths, to teach the Gospel and admonish one another in these classes? Whether they be on Sunday morning, Wednesday night, or in an off-campus fellowship during the week these are all opportunities to win the lost teenagers and sanctify Believing teens. No, I don’t think teenagers or older children for that matter should be seperated from parents for worship, but small group fellowship of all ages and combinations is a tool for people to get to know and be encouraged by the Body of Christ.
    I am a home-schooling mom with three children, one of whom is a teen girl. I don’t allow immodest apparel, we have family worship, and I love helping to teach the junior high girls at church. My husband and I used to teach the pre-K sunday school class every Sunday, but then he went on to be an inreach leader in a 30+ week discipleship class at our church. My children have helped us in the nursery, and I volunteer a few times a year for our women’s Bible study nursery, that occurs 12 times a year. We also spent a few years being AWANA listeners. I don’t say all that to gloat, but to give examples of how the body of Christ can minister to others and be minstered to while serving others. I can’t even begin to share that ways that we are ministered to by having these services and people in our lives through our local church!! There has to be a balance between protecting our children and minstering to the lost, hurting, lonely world.

    Long time reader and enjoyer of this site!
    Kelly N.

  7. Kelly – I don’t know anyone, including Voddie Baucham, who would be judgmental or harsh toward a young woman who came to our worship service dressed immodestly. It happens from time-to-time. We do not expect worldlings to have the character of God. A woman from our fellowship would likely talk with the young woman about the gospel and address dress if it was appropriate.

    We all must be careful to not impose indicatives on folks – especially lost folk – as if they are imperatives. This smacks of legalism and must be avoided. Even imperatives given to Christians cannot be imposed on lost folk – more legalism.

    Please bear in mind that Voddie’s comments in this quote are addressed to Christians – not the world.

  8. Kelly,

    Your comment wasn’t inflammatory, it was mature and well considered. Praise the Lord for His faithfulness to His people!

    In Him,
    CD

  9. Manfred – Thank you for responding so quickly. I read Voddie Bauchum’s book, ‘Family Driven Faith’ and I also like his daughter’s blog. If I am not mistaken this quote is directed toward Christian parents’ in regards to their children. That is the problem I have with it. It comes across as a “pointing finger” type of statement. As if to say, “We’ve taught you how to dress and behave and we certainly aren’t going to have your purity spoiled by THOSE girls!” Yes I fully agree that immodest dress can cause a young man to stumble – that is why these groups should most always be segregated.
    However, that is where the mature Christian adults/parents need to be guiding any type of youth gathering or group. Older women teaching the younger women and older men teaching the younger men. I have used many moments of being asked about, not pointing out, immodest dress by my daughter and I use them as teaching moments. They have happened at church and throughout our day to day life.
    I have many times, not always, seen prideful hearts and critical spirits develop from this way of dealing with youth. We need to guard our children with truth while teaching them, age appropriately, to share Christ and admonish their brothers and sisters when necessary with God’s Word. Parents and grandparents need to pray and see where they can become involved alongside the teens in their sphere of influence, and I believe that includes the teenagers in the local church.
    -Kelly

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