Where’s that in Scripture?

When Roman Catholicism bases its bedrock of authority on an ever-changing position of leadership (just like Mormonism), it never ceases to amaze me what men can dream up. And with no real, fixed, eternal foundation by which to measure all new revelations, decrees, and doctrines, whatever the pope (or a prophet) says must be accepted as truth and cannot be scrutinized or challenged because the people lack a source of unchanging truth.

Without a solid, non-vacillating source of truth to stand on, those who follow the pope (or the prophet) simply get carried along to and fro with every wind of doctrine, resulting in their eternal destruction at the hands of those who promised them peace and safety and assured them that everything was all right.

Examining the claims of any man, even that of the Apostle Paul as the Bereans did in Acts 17 (and were called noble for doing so), is necessary. Without a basis to measure what a man says (and holding him accountable to that standard of measurement) then you are at the mercy of a sinful son of Adam and are entrusting your eternal soul to whatever that man says.

Case in point: According to this article in Zenit, the Romish organization  recently announced this whopper of a tale:

On Benedict XVI’s behalf, the Apostolic Penitentiary is granting a special plenary indulgence to those who pray before the remains of St. Celestine V during the year dedicated to him.

That’s right, if you pray in front of the corpse of a dead man you can receive a “special plenary indulgence.” I can’t make this stuff up (but apparently Rome can).

His remains will be on pilgrimage during this year throughout the dioceses of the region where people were affected by the quake, so that the faithful, having fulfilled the other requirements, can receive the indulgence.

Having fulfilled the other requirements?” What can they possibly add to the already completed, perfect sacrifice of the spotless Lamb of God? What “other requirements” does the Bible say we must fulfill?

Galatians 2:16 is pretty clear that

A man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

So what basis of unchanging truth, what foundational, eternal authority does Rome appeal to in order to validate this Romish teaching? Apparently not the Word of God, as this article never once points to Scripture to support this gross error. Instead Rome actually references a previous papal error to support the current papal error.

As a gift to all the people, [Celestine V] decided that those who confessed and were sincerely repentant, and visited the Basilica of Santa Maria di Collemaggio in that city, between Aug. 28 and Aug. 29, would receive the remission of sins and the absolution of punishment. Until then, a plenary indulgence was only granted to those who went to the Holy Land as crusaders and to pilgrims who visited the Portincula of Assisi.

So Celestine V, who taught the false gospel of obtaining “remission of sins and the absolution of punishment” by one’s own ability (in this case if someone visited a certain Basilica), is now the object of the furtherance of this false gospel by virtue of us praying in front of his dead body? This sounds like great fiction at best, occultism at worst.

And where did Celestine V come up with this idea? Notice in the previous quote that Celestine V simply “decided” this new wind of doctrine. What power he must wield, and with no basis by which to measure truth, how can this ever be challenged? For a Roman Catholic it cannot, and this is why Rome is so adamantly opposed to Sola Scriptura.

The article continues:

The prelate added: “Celestine wished to remind us of the great love of God, of God’s forgiveness, of reconciliation, of conversion and of peace.

Apparently this is a “love” and a “forgiveness” that the Romish god could not completely provide to his people unless they were able to travel to a certain city between August 28 and August 29th in the 13th century.

Rome can keep its impossible gospel, and I’ll stick to the perfect Word of God which tells me where God’s peace truly comes from: “Having made peace through the blood of His cross (Colossians 1:20).”

If Celestine V or Pope Benedict XVI had spoken in Berea and given the above “teaching” to the Bereans, and they searched the Scriptures to see if it were so, would they have been able to find it? Certainly not, for even Rome can’t find Scripture to support this aberrant teaching. But such is the liberty of Rome (and any cult) that puts the words of its leaders above that of the very Word of God. And such is the reason why Rome attacks the Word of God so vehemently, because it stands in direct opposition to Rome’s teachings, and Rome will only be at “peace” when it extinguishes all opposition, whether by torture, murder, threat of ex-communication or attacking the precious Word of God.

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But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. - Titus 3:4-7

13 thoughts on “Where’s that in Scripture?

  1. Great post! Catholics can offer whatever kind of test they would like to verify the teachings of Rome, and they’ll most certainly choose a test that the pope will pass. But Mormons offer their test, JWs offer their test, and every other cult offers a way to test their teachings. None of them want anyone to test their claims by the Bible.

    Catholics can mock evangelicals for having hundreds of denominations, but the Catholic way of thinking has led to hundreds of cults.

    Thanks,
    Bill

  2. What does God say about adding to His word? ‘Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.’- Deut. 4:2 ‘ Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar’ – Proverbs 30:6. ‘For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book’- Rev. 22:18
    However, the RCC does NOT acknowledge the word of God as the only authoritative source of absolute truth; so passages such as the aforementioned are never ‘discussed’ {and obviously not obeyed} within the satanic religion we know as the Roman Catholic Church.

    As for ‘other requirements’, ‘it is finished’ is the ONLY requirement needed. This truth uttered by our Lord on the cross says it all, nothing else added will make one iota of difference. Every false religion adds to, tweeks, and brings in their own man-made traditions/set of beliefs, that is how you know they are false. Here is a warning from Colossians 2:8, ‘Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.’

    What did our Lord say about man-made traditions an religions that look good on the outside?
    ‘He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men–the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.”But you say, ‘If a man says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban”–’ (that is, a gift to God),then you no longer let him do anything for his father or his mother, making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.” Mark 7

    Notice how our Lord addresses these ‘religious’ types—hypocrites…I found the meaning of this word very interesting-pretender,an actor

    May God have mercy on the deceived on the day of judgment, their refusal to hear truth and the reaction they have {which manifests itself by their words and actions} reminds me of the reaction Stephen received as he preached the truth, rebuking the unbelieving Jews, and their response, ‘You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.’ When they heard these things they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed at him with their teeth. Then they cried out with a loud voice, stopped their ears, and ran at him with one accord’…Acts 7:51, 54, 57—–sound familiar? Apostates/unbelievers always lash out at God’s truth and attack that same truth, either verbally or physically. There really is nothing new under the sun.

  3. The more I learn of Christ and of the Roman church, the less I understand how anyone who claims Christ can tolerate, much less embrace, that cult on 7 hills. The Word of God tells us many will follow after tales of men, departing from the narrow path of His truth. As humans, we cannot but be full of sorrow for the destiny of those following Satan in his many disguises.

  4. Amen Manfred Amen

    Pilgrim – great post! Very informative & I just cannot believe that first quote;

    “On Benedict XVI’s behalf, the Apostolic Penitentiary is granting a special plenary indulgence to those who pray before the remains of St. Celestine V during the year dedicated to him.”

    - what an abomination.

  5. brother Michael says:

    Thanks Pilgrim for highlighting yet another Roman doctrine of devils. Wonder where the Catholic apologists are to defend this blasphemy.

    Matthew Johnston – oh yes, the Pope with the strike of his pen can lessen or increase the torments in purgatory. What a coup! And every so often out of the fathomless depths of the kindness of his heart he’ll toss a bone to the grovelling masses for them to knock a little time off their purgatorial sentence. Can’t you just feel the love?

    And hey, it helps out the travel industry and the merchants of Catholic trinkets setup at these shrines, so it’s a win-win for all!

    Consider this as one of many examples that could be cited: Benedict granted Catholics an indulgence for visiting Lourdes on Dec 8th 2007. And for the poor souls who were unable to travel to Lourdes, they needed not to fret as Papa Pope granted indulgences for all who would pray at a place of “worship” dedicated to their Lady of Lourdes from 2/2-2/11/08. source

    Personally, I think I’d take curtain #1 and lodge a trip to France as I understand the food is out of this world. Vive la France!

    Hey, does anyone know if there are any Marian shrines in Tahiti or Hawaii? ;)

  6. Jeff H says:

    August 28

    Hey! My birthday!!

    Maybe I should wear the Brown Scapular (just in case)!

    According to the Fatima Folks:

    The Scapular devotion was born on July 16, 1251 when Our Blessed Mother appeared to St. Simon Stock, general of the Carmelite Order, in response to his heartfelt prayers for assistance. Holding the Scapular before him, Our Lady spoke, saying:

    “Take this Scapular. Whosoever dies wearing it shall not suffer eternal fire. It shall be a sign of salvation, a protection in danger and pledge of peace.”

    This great promise was further magnified some eighty years later when the Queen of Heaven appeared to Jean Drèze (later Pope John XXII) and told him that “those who have been invested with this Holy Habit will be delivered from Purgatory the first Saturday after their deaths.”

    This great secondary promise attached to the Scapular is called the Sabbatine (Saturday) Privilege and is based on a decree issued by John XXII in 1322 (and re-confirmed 400 years later by Pope Paul V).

    In our own century, Pope Benedict XV, as a sign of his approval, granted a 500 day indulgence each time the Scapular is kissed.

    What an insult to Our Lord Jesus Christ, Who said “Tetelestai!” (“It is FINISHED!”).

    In Christ ALONE,
    - Jeff H

  7. Mark says:

    the scapular junk just as all the rest of the rcc junk is of the devil as none of it is biblical! I feel for the poor souls who follow that demonic trash and are told by that organization that all they have to do is obey the rcc.

  8. While I don’t wish to derail this thread, I take some issue with the implication being made here:

    whatever the pope (or a prophet) says must be accepted as truth and cannot be scrutinized or challenged because the people lack a source of unchanging truth.

    Without a solid, non-vacillating source of truth to stand on, those who follow the pope (or the prophet) simply get carried along to and fro with every wind of doctrine

    I concede that, even to a non-believer, roman catholicism appears mired in self-importance and ritualized self-worship. The Pope is no more holy or closer to God than I am, and any authority he holds comes from individual catholics – not the divine.

    Still, despite these things you and I agree upon, I question this notion that “a solid, non-vacillating source of truth” is something that other religions can lay claim to. Ignoring issues of translation and versioning, the Bible doesn’t change. It is in this sense “non-vacillating”. However, interpretation of it is anything but unchanging. Different ages and different cultures place varying levels of trust / importance upon scripture; what may be safely written off as historical relevance today may have been seen as literal truth in the past.

    Given the multitude of Christian denominations today, I think it’s hasty to suggest that Biblical scripture is strong enough to justify it being an unwavering standard. There’s clear evidence that this unwavering standard is not interpreted consistently across the spectrum of Christian faith. For this reason, I’m skeptical that any group can claim to possess “a strong, non-vacillating source of truth”.

  9. Jeff H says:

    However, interpretation of it is anything but unchanging. Different ages and different cultures place varying levels of trust / importance upon scripture; what may be safely written off as historical relevance today may have been seen as literal truth in the past.

    Given the multitude of Christian denominations today, I think it’s hasty to suggest that Biblical scripture is strong enough to justify it being an unwavering standard. There’s clear evidence that this unwavering standard is not interpreted consistently across the spectrum of Christian faith. For this reason, I’m skeptical that any group can claim to possess “a strong, non-vacillating source of truth”.

    HERMENEUTICS.

    The Pope is no more holy or closer to God than I am

    RUN !!!

  10. The blind leading the blind, and both falling into the ditch (hell). If people thought for themselves common sense would tell them something is not right with this picture and question it, then get out your Bible and read, read, read. Ask God to open your mind to the truth, it worked for me!

  11. CPCIV says:

    A friend of mine who is a Catholic posted this response.

    The bedrock of the Church, is the bedrock of the Faith~~~~~>>>>>> Jesus Christ

    “whatever the pope (or a prophet) says must be accepted as truth and cannot be scrutinized or challenged because the people lack a source of unchanging truth.”

    The 1st pope was an Apostle/Disciple of God.. I don’t see anyone being so critical of Paul, but then again he was not appointed as a “rock” that would be here on earth as a living breathing testament to God’s unchanging Word… go fig

    “That’s right, if you pray in front of the corpse of a dead man you can receive a “special plenary indulgence.” I can’t make this stuff up (but apparently Rome can).”

    Go research again as to what an indulgence is.

    “Having fulfilled the other requirements?” What can they possibly add to the already completed, perfect sacrifice of the spotless Lamb of God? What “other requirements” does the Bible say we must fulfill?
    Galatians 2:16 is pretty clear that
    A man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.”

    Galatians 3:19-29
    19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
    21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
    23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
    Sons of God
    26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    “So Celestine V, who taught the false gospel of obtaining “remission of sins and the absolution of punishment” by one’s own ability (in this case if someone visited a certain Basilica), is now the object of the furtherance of this false gospel by virtue of us praying in front of his dead body?”

    Remission of sins and absolution is speaking of confession/repentance for one’s sin (Catholics go to confession and in that the priest absolves you of your sins. It’s not so much of the actual priest saying HE is forgiving you, but that thru the merits of Christ and His Precious Blood he(the priest) is vicariously forgiving you and letting you know that God does/has already forgiven you for your sins. See Matthew 16: 18-19~~~~>>>> 18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
    19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

  12. Smoke and mirrors, CPCIV, in addition to the false claim that Peter was the first pope. Ugh. If you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth for some people.

    Not only is there no evidence that Peter was the first pope, but the evidence is actually in favor that he was not.

    But anyway, no defense/Scriptural support of this abhorrent doctrine of devils of praying in front of corpses or visiting certain cities at certain times for remission of sins was provided by your friend.

    On a good note, your fiend at least read some of Galatians. Perhaps he/she will read the whole thing over and over till it sinks in, and he/she will have his/her eyes opened to the fact that:

    For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM.” Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.” However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us–for it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE”–in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. - Galatians 3:10-14

    Sola Fide, my friend, Sola Fide!

    - Pilgrim

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