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		<title>By: jonathan</title>
		<link>http://defendingcontending.com/2009/11/15/deserving-to-die-terrorists-or-victims/#comment-20530</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hal it amazes me that the so called Christian right can’t see what you have stated here. That most of it is coming from inside our own country. And what you said about them being in fear is what we should not be in, according to the Spirit that is in us. Sorry but I think this country is part of the beast system, and having come up out of the earth looking like a lamb but speaking like a devil. We have troops in almost every country in the world. Can you see where our peace is coming from? The end of a barrel. And now backing the UN with our military if any should step out of place like Iraq and soon to be Iran, guess what? They’ll be like the pour peasant’s of Pakistan who get killed by drown air plans flown by some kid with a joy stick in his hand like a video game in a building over here waiting for orders from one of those who could care less for the innocent, who not just might be kill, but who have by the thousands. And then to hear someone who says their a so called Christian say; well that’s war they should’nov been there. Wheres the grief, wheres the outrage. There is none if very little. 

And why? Their leaders told them it was OK! but not so, there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the ones they did have they got them from the UsofA. And I have grave questions if those were brown skin people who were really behind the wheels of those planes that hit New York and the Pentagon as well as the OK city bombing being done by those people without help from those who are possessed by the devil and hungry for power and riches. If you haven’t noticed, that propaganda machine you speak of is calling our own people terrorist now for speaking out. Their using the McVeigh as poster child for it, Just this morning National Geographic last word on their TV program of the OK bombing said in stern words that “its the terrorist here in America that have to be looked out for”….We’re next!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal it amazes me that the so called Christian right can’t see what you have stated here. That most of it is coming from inside our own country. And what you said about them being in fear is what we should not be in, according to the Spirit that is in us. Sorry but I think this country is part of the beast system, and having come up out of the earth looking like a lamb but speaking like a devil. We have troops in almost every country in the world. Can you see where our peace is coming from? The end of a barrel. And now backing the UN with our military if any should step out of place like Iraq and soon to be Iran, guess what? They’ll be like the pour peasant’s of Pakistan who get killed by drown air plans flown by some kid with a joy stick in his hand like a video game in a building over here waiting for orders from one of those who could care less for the innocent, who not just might be kill, but who have by the thousands. And then to hear someone who says their a so called Christian say; well that’s war they should’nov been there. Wheres the grief, wheres the outrage. There is none if very little. </p>
<p>And why? Their leaders told them it was OK! but not so, there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the ones they did have they got them from the UsofA. And I have grave questions if those were brown skin people who were really behind the wheels of those planes that hit New York and the Pentagon as well as the OK city bombing being done by those people without help from those who are possessed by the devil and hungry for power and riches. If you haven’t noticed, that propaganda machine you speak of is calling our own people terrorist now for speaking out. Their using the McVeigh as poster child for it, Just this morning National Geographic last word on their TV program of the OK bombing said in stern words that “its the terrorist here in America that have to be looked out for”….We’re next!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with much of this post and the general ideas.  The gaps between blind patriotism and Christianity has bothered me in that Christians seem to seperate themselves from the rest of our brother and sister Christians in Palestine and thoughout the world. 

Many are brainwashed by fear into supporting the wars we are fighting at a very high cost that will come back to haunt us.  It scares me to think of our military having to fight without overwhelming weapons superiority, but that could easily happen (Somalia).

I do believe that there is a time to fight and defend yourself, your family, and your country.  Defense is the key word.  It is far too easy to jump to conclusions about who did what without knowing all the facts and even ignoring what we do know.  

We live in a time when manipulation by fear, propaganda and deception has been raised to new levels, and Christians need to depend on the Lord for vengence is His.  Not to go out and murder in the name of patriotism just because it as easy as playing a video game.  ( See the Wikileaks.com Apache video.) 

There is much evidence that refutes beyond a doubt, many of the &quot;official&quot; versions of &quot;terror&quot; attacks that are feed to us.  I pray Christians will look beyond the Zionist controlled media for information. (An example would be Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Ron Avery presentation).  

Since the Roman Empire and before, wars and false flag attacks have been used to keep men in power, and for profit.  Republics were also just the illusion of some democracy.  Bread and circuses were used to placate the &quot;vulgar plebs&quot;.

While I completely agree with everyone who believes that we have a right to defend ourselves, Americans have been known to be easily mislead by propaganda and &quot;patriotism&quot;.  I have been guilty, and slow to accept that my government may not always be in the right.  One reason is that I grew up with both parents in the National Security Agency when they could not even acknowledge it existed.

I also have Swiss ancestry and believe in their policy of armed neutrality.  They may be a small country, but their history of actually fighting, markmanship, preparation, and willingness to destroy their own bridges and fight to the end, kept the Germans out in WWII even after being completely surrounded.  There were plans for Germany to invade, but they knew their objective would come at a too high a price, if at all. 

What I want to convey is that Christians need to be very aware that we live in high propaganda zone. Exactly the way that the USSR was portrayed in the cold war.  Many good people have learned this the hard way.   As long as we let agencies such as MI6/CIA/Mossad operate without accountability we will be represented by murderers, false flag terrorists, spies, criminals, thieves, drug pushers, kidnappers, and liars who believe that their ends justify their means, and there will be continual wars with no legal objective.  This is the great lie that should be bothering all Christians. 

Even at a practical level we will never be able to maintain the extremely wasteful war economy, foreign aid, and corporate welfare much longer.  Our safety comes from the Lord and not men.  May God have mercy on our souls for letting ungodly men lead us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with much of this post and the general ideas.  The gaps between blind patriotism and Christianity has bothered me in that Christians seem to seperate themselves from the rest of our brother and sister Christians in Palestine and thoughout the world. </p>
<p>Many are brainwashed by fear into supporting the wars we are fighting at a very high cost that will come back to haunt us.  It scares me to think of our military having to fight without overwhelming weapons superiority, but that could easily happen (Somalia).</p>
<p>I do believe that there is a time to fight and defend yourself, your family, and your country.  Defense is the key word.  It is far too easy to jump to conclusions about who did what without knowing all the facts and even ignoring what we do know.  </p>
<p>We live in a time when manipulation by fear, propaganda and deception has been raised to new levels, and Christians need to depend on the Lord for vengence is His.  Not to go out and murder in the name of patriotism just because it as easy as playing a video game.  ( See the Wikileaks.com Apache video.) </p>
<p>There is much evidence that refutes beyond a doubt, many of the &#8220;official&#8221; versions of &#8220;terror&#8221; attacks that are feed to us.  I pray Christians will look beyond the Zionist controlled media for information. (An example would be Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth &#8211; Ron Avery presentation).  </p>
<p>Since the Roman Empire and before, wars and false flag attacks have been used to keep men in power, and for profit.  Republics were also just the illusion of some democracy.  Bread and circuses were used to placate the &#8220;vulgar plebs&#8221;.</p>
<p>While I completely agree with everyone who believes that we have a right to defend ourselves, Americans have been known to be easily mislead by propaganda and &#8220;patriotism&#8221;.  I have been guilty, and slow to accept that my government may not always be in the right.  One reason is that I grew up with both parents in the National Security Agency when they could not even acknowledge it existed.</p>
<p>I also have Swiss ancestry and believe in their policy of armed neutrality.  They may be a small country, but their history of actually fighting, markmanship, preparation, and willingness to destroy their own bridges and fight to the end, kept the Germans out in WWII even after being completely surrounded.  There were plans for Germany to invade, but they knew their objective would come at a too high a price, if at all. </p>
<p>What I want to convey is that Christians need to be very aware that we live in high propaganda zone. Exactly the way that the USSR was portrayed in the cold war.  Many good people have learned this the hard way.   As long as we let agencies such as MI6/CIA/Mossad operate without accountability we will be represented by murderers, false flag terrorists, spies, criminals, thieves, drug pushers, kidnappers, and liars who believe that their ends justify their means, and there will be continual wars with no legal objective.  This is the great lie that should be bothering all Christians. </p>
<p>Even at a practical level we will never be able to maintain the extremely wasteful war economy, foreign aid, and corporate welfare much longer.  Our safety comes from the Lord and not men.  May God have mercy on our souls for letting ungodly men lead us.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://defendingcontending.com/2009/11/15/deserving-to-die-terrorists-or-victims/#comment-15684</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post. I do believe that while we should love our enemies, we have every right as a nation to defend ourselves. We definitely should be praying for terrorists. However, if we were not fighting them on their soil, they would be here fighting us on ours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. I do believe that while we should love our enemies, we have every right as a nation to defend ourselves. We definitely should be praying for terrorists. However, if we were not fighting them on their soil, they would be here fighting us on ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://defendingcontending.com/2009/11/15/deserving-to-die-terrorists-or-victims/#comment-15664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post. Sad to say this Body of Christ, for the most part, seeks what is &quot;fair&quot; or American Justice, over Jesus&#039; command to love our enemy.

Churches everywhere house people. Warm and comfortable are they in their pews... It breaks my heart. I&#039;m so ready and willing to serve God, share the Gospel. I pray everyday that the Lord would pour favor upon me according to Eph. 6:19,20.

What a powerful statement/thought/scripture to give up your eternal life, if only to see your brethren saved. I&#039;m not quite sure many would do it...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. Sad to say this Body of Christ, for the most part, seeks what is &#8220;fair&#8221; or American Justice, over Jesus&#8217; command to love our enemy.</p>
<p>Churches everywhere house people. Warm and comfortable are they in their pews&#8230; It breaks my heart. I&#8217;m so ready and willing to serve God, share the Gospel. I pray everyday that the Lord would pour favor upon me according to Eph. 6:19,20.</p>
<p>What a powerful statement/thought/scripture to give up your eternal life, if only to see your brethren saved. I&#8217;m not quite sure many would do it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Manfred</title>
		<link>http://defendingcontending.com/2009/11/15/deserving-to-die-terrorists-or-victims/#comment-15659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manfred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have slowly recognized the deadly mixing of politics with faith and saw the danger of doing so in the historical record of the Roman Catholic Church.  Many evangelical churches have US flags in them and celebrate political holidays.  As the son of an Army &quot;lifer&quot; and a veteran myself, I have a definite view of right and wrong in the political sphere (if it ain&#039;t in the Constitution, the federal government should not do it) and have grown to see the wisdom in the cries for separation of church and state that were given voice by lonely reformers in Scotland in the 11th century.

My church encourages us to &quot;sponsor&quot; foreign exchange students (through www.InternationalCulturalExchange.org).  My wife and I signed up and drew a 30 year old married man from Turkmenistan - with his wife and small daughter.  He is a proclaiming Muslim, but is in no way orthodox - much as most proclaiming Christians in this country.

As Scripture teaches us, we are enemies of God in our natural state - our record is bad (in Adam all die) and our heart is bad (no man does good).  If we have bee risen in Christ to new life, we are to proclaim the cross to all men - even those our flesh hates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have slowly recognized the deadly mixing of politics with faith and saw the danger of doing so in the historical record of the Roman Catholic Church.  Many evangelical churches have US flags in them and celebrate political holidays.  As the son of an Army &#8220;lifer&#8221; and a veteran myself, I have a definite view of right and wrong in the political sphere (if it ain&#8217;t in the Constitution, the federal government should not do it) and have grown to see the wisdom in the cries for separation of church and state that were given voice by lonely reformers in Scotland in the 11th century.</p>
<p>My church encourages us to &#8220;sponsor&#8221; foreign exchange students (through <a href="http://www.InternationalCulturalExchange.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.InternationalCulturalExchange.org</a>).  My wife and I signed up and drew a 30 year old married man from Turkmenistan &#8211; with his wife and small daughter.  He is a proclaiming Muslim, but is in no way orthodox &#8211; much as most proclaiming Christians in this country.</p>
<p>As Scripture teaches us, we are enemies of God in our natural state &#8211; our record is bad (in Adam all die) and our heart is bad (no man does good).  If we have bee risen in Christ to new life, we are to proclaim the cross to all men &#8211; even those our flesh hates.</p>
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