God’s courtroom

As I type this, the sentencing phase of the Letalvis Cobbins trial is taking place. If the system works as it should, he will receive the death penalty. Why? Because that is what he deserves for the crimes he has committed. They were heinous, barbaric, abominable, and not simply inhumane–but inhuman. And because of the inhumanity with which he and his accomplices acted toward Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom, they should all be removed from society and sentenced to death. (And before you say that the death penalty is “unbiblical” I would direct you to Romans 13:1-4).

Right now, his sister is pleading on his behalf, that he not be sentenced to death. She, along with the rest of his family, is pleading that the judge and jury spare his life. And they may succeed. They may play on the sympathies of the judge and the jury, or the judge and jury may be so soft-hearted that they will sentence Cobbins to life without parole. And as this unfolds, several thoughts come to mind.

First, is Letalvis Cobbins any worse than we are? Consider this for one moment. Letalvis Cobbins committed one of the most despicable murders in the history of Knoxville, or Tennessee, or the United States for that matter. But is that so very different from the ways we break God’s laws? Without the Holy Spirit of God dwelling in those of us who know Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior; without the Holy Spirit of God holding back the wicked hearts of evil men, there is not one person on the face of the earth–past, present, future–who has not been capable of doing everything Letalvis Cobbins did–and worse. (And when I say, “not one person” I am, of course, excluding Christ our Lord.)

Second, as much as he deserves the death penalty for his crimes, are we any less deserving of eternal punishment for trampling over the laws of Almighty God? Which of us can say that we are “not as bad” as he is? We may not appear to ourselves or to other humans to be as bad. But who is the final decider on what and who is “good?” Which brings me to………

Third. On the day when we stand before God to give an account, there will only be two possible scenarios for us:

1) We can stand there, alone, with no one to plead our cause. When the books are opened, and the charges read, we will not have an attorney. We will not have friends and family pleading with The Judge that we were a “good person.” And even if our friends and family could stand there and plead for us, God will not see us as a “good person.” Why? “No one is good but One, that is, God” (Mark 10:18). Our friends will do no good pleading our cause. Our family will do no good pleading our cause. Not even the Virgin Mary will do any good pleading our cause. Without the blood of the spotless Lamb of God (1st Peter 1:18-19), the Great Mediator (1st Timothy 2:5) and Advocate (1st John 2:1), then all the pleading on our behalf is useless. Because when God judges, He does not offer compassion. He does not offer mercy. If anything, when we stand there and beg for mercy, He will say, “I offered you mercy. I gave you My Son, and you wanted nothing of Him. Now, I want nothing of you.”

And then what will they cry? “‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’” (Matthew 7:22). And they will cry, and they will weep, and they will gnash their teeth (Luke 13:28). All to no avail. For He will cast His fiery gaze at them and declare, for all to hear, “‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you worker of iniquity!’” (Matthew 7:23).

No mercy.
No compassion.
No retrial.

No appeal to a higher court. For there is no higher court than the one presided over by that Great and Perfect Judge, Almighty YHVH. And they will be cast into a Lake burning with fire and brimstone (Revelation 20:15), and their torment will be eternal, and the smoke of it will rise like incense to the heavens (Revelation 14:11), as a memorial to the perfect justice of a perfect and holy God. And His justice is perfect, because all men are judged by the same Law, by the same Judge, and with no respect of person (Romans 2:11; Romans 3:19-20; Deuteronomy 1:17; 2nd Samuel 14:14; 2nd Chronicles 19:7; Acts 10:34; Revelation 20:12).

So I ask you, my friend, who is pleading for you?
Mother?
Father?
Friend?
Priest?
Joseph Smith?
Your “good works?”

Unless it is the blood of Jesus Christ our Lord which is pleading to the Father on your behalf, be sure that you will receive nothing less than what you are due: eternal punishment for transgressing the eternal Law of an eternal God.

OR………

2) As guilty and as heinous as the crimes committed by Cobbins et al, , there is an even greater One who will plead for us to that eternal and Almighty God if we ask. The name of that advocate is Jesus Christ the Lord. If He is pleading for us, we can stand there, with our sins forgiven, having been paid for on the cross of Golgotha. Those who have acknowledged Christ Jesus as Savior AND LORD will have their debts wiped off the books. And when they stand before the Great and Almighty Judge of all, they can hear their final verdict read–“NOT GUILTY!!” 1st Timothy 2:5For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. And that Mediator is seated at God’s right hand, ever ready to make intercession for us (Hebrews 7:25). And as many as He draws, and as many enter into Him for rest, and as many as He saves, He saves to the uttermost.

We will face consequences for our actions here on earth. But be assured, friend, that there is hope even for one like Letalvis Cobbins. And there is even hope for one like you.

17 thoughts on “God’s courtroom

  1. A very well written article.
    With out Jesus we all stand naked and guilty before a Holy and righteous God.

    In Christ alone, who took on flesh
    Fullness of God in helpless Babe
    This gift if love and righteousness
    Scorned by the ones He came to save
    ‘Til on the cross as Jesus died
    The wrath of God was satisfied
    For ev’ry sin on Him was laid
    Here in the death of Christ in I live

  2. I agree papapatriot. Well put, Fourpointer! Thanks for the reminder as well as the verse to the song “In Christ Alone.” We all deserve what we will not get because He alone became the propitiation for our sins! Amen and amen!

  3. Hello!

    You wrote: “The name of that advocate is Jesus Christ the Lord. If He is pleading for us, we can stand there, with our sins forgiven, having been paid for on the cross of Golgotha.”
    I want to comment the issue of atonement.

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    How to live in order to enable the Creator in His loving kindness to provide His kipur –atonement- is outlined in Tan’’kh ; and was also taught by Ribi Yehoshua. The first century Ribi Yehoshua from Nazareth (the Mashiakh; the Messiah) taught in accordance with Tan’’kh the only way to get connection with the Creator, This way is found both in Torah and in Ribi Yehoshuas teachings found in our website – http://www.netzarim.co.il

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  4. There is a reason that holy men, who have seen something of the glory of the LORD in a vision, have fallen down on their faces, pronouncing curses upon themselves. These ‘best of the best’ saw merely something of how short we fall of the glory of Him Who sits on the throne forever.

    I am convinced, except God willed to act graciously against it, that if we truly had any idea of how hideous and offensive and perverted our sin is, and wonderful, HOLY, and worthy is He Whom we sinned against, we would literally die. While it is by definition impossible for finite man to fully know the infinite God in all His fullness, the shock of receiving a sizeable chunk of understanding of just Who He is that we dared to hate and rebel against would surely be a killing shock. People have heart attacks over much more trivial scares in life.

    All that to say:

    Grace is marvellous, that in Christ it overcomes all these impossible and infinite gaps from my wretched life to the steadfast love of the Father as to a son. Those who are forgiven much will love much.

  5. Legal judgments are not final judgments. That said, they must be made. One of the reasons liberals despair over the death penalty rather than viewing it as a severe but sometimes necessary punishment, is that they don’t believe in all knowing, all powerful, and all just God that will correct our worldly mistakes, comfort the innocent, etc. In other words, the death penalty is serious, but not final in an ultimate cosmic sense, and the prospect of a death penalty can lead one to a serious confrontation with his conscience and the meaning of his acts and hopefully lead him to repentance.

    I thought Cobbins’ relatives showed a tone-deaf and typically thuggish failure to accept the gravity of his evil acts and the pain of the Christians. It was all “we love our brother” and not enough “we’re as horrified by these events as anyone.”

  6. The idea that we all deserve to be tortured, with the utmost pain, for eternity, is just not at all compatible with the idea that God has any love or decency or compassion.

    Perhaps a Cosmic Maniac, or if Satan were God, you could make this case.

    But the God Jesus described would never hurt anyone for a single moment, much less for an eternity.

    I’ve actually written an entire book on this topic–“Hell? No! Why You Can Be Certain There’s No Such Place As Hell.” If I may, let me share one of the many points I make in it.

    If one is willing to look, there’s substantial evidence contained in the gospels to show that Jesus opposed the idea of Hell. For example, in Luke 9:51-56, is a story about his great disappointment with his disciples when they actually suggested imploring God to rain FIRE on a village just because they had rejected him. His response: “You don’t know what spirit is inspiring this kind of talk!” Presumably, it was NOT the Holy Spirit. He went on, trying to explain how he had come to save, heal and relieve suffering, not be the CAUSE of it.

    So it only stands to reason that this same Jesus, who was appalled at the very idea of burning a few people, for a few horrific minutes until they were dead, could never, ever burn BILLIONS of people for an ETERNITY!

    True, there are a few statements that made their way into the gospels which place Hell on Jesus lips, but these adulterations came along many decades after his death, most likely due to the Church filling up with Greeks who imported their belief in Hades with them when they converted.

  7. Ah, yes. The old “Those passages were inserted later” card, brought out by so many who teach heresy (e.g., Mormons). And I suppose you can offer some substantiation to your claim? Some “magic bullet” so to speak, that can back this up?

    No, friend, these are the clear words of Christ. As are these–

    Matthew 10:28–“And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”
    Matthew 25:41–“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
    John 5:28-29–“Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth–those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.”

    Besides, the gospels are not the only place that talks about Hell–

    2nd Thessalonians 1:9–These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power.
    Revelation 14:11–“And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
    Revelation 20:11-15–Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

    But, of course, ALL these verses were added later by pagans, right? Because that is the fallback position of people who want to live in sin with no consequences. People that want to live their lives in whatever way they want, without having to worry about being accountable to God. So, go ahead, say that these verses were added later, thinking that that will win your argument and stifle any disagreement.

    If you want to know why Hell is necessary, listen to Tim Conway’s message here.

  8. No statements just “made their way into the Gospels” or any part of the canonized Holy Bible. All statements in the Bible are decreed and ordained by God to be there. The Truth about eternity is settled in the Verses which fourpointer cited, regardless of anyone’s opinion, or even the endorsement of Tim Conway.

  9. Very true, Ministry Addict and Fourpointer! So many people want to pull bits and pieces out of Scripture that they don’t like. It kind of reminds me of the book of Jeremiah. One of the people took his writings to the king and he just cut out the part that he didn’t want to hear or didn’t like. He then threw it in the fire with no concern about God. In the end, it is as Jesus stated in Matt. 10:28. It’s better to fear the One who can kill both body and soul then the ones who can kill only the body. The worst part about this is that one day those who think there is no hell will wake up to find they are in hell. What a sad day that will be but then it will be too late.

  10. Rick:

    What makes you so sure you don’t have it backwards?

    How do you know if all the texts on Hell are actually Scriptural (spoken by Jesus and the Apostles) and your particular verse “made it’s way into the gospels” later?

    And let’s go further. How about “God is love”? Maybe it made it’s way into the gospels later as well.

    And how about Jesus? Perhaps He never existed and He was added into the gospels later too.

    Following your opinion to its logical conclusion leads to a rejection of the Scriptures and thus, a rejection of the only means of Salvation: the true biblical Jesus Christ, in favor of a “Jesus” of your own making. Like your “Jesus” who holds no one accountable for their sins. This is really good news for folks like Hitler!

    It seems that the bandwagon of denying this clear doctrine is getting quite full.

    For those who want to know more, check out my Bible reference notes on the doctrine of Hell.

    – The Pilgrim

  11. To Fourpointer,

    Now you’re playing the circular reasoning card! “Hell must be true because there are verses that say it exists in the Bible.” You presuppose that every word in the Bible is true, but you’ve no evidence to support this presumption. Further, the Bible is full of contradictory ideas so, at best, only certain parts are might be true.

    Here’s the magic bullet. In at least one passage, the one I quoted from Luke 9, it’s VERY CLEAR Jesus was appalled at the very suggestion that people be hurt and caused to suffer, even though they had rejected him. OBVIOUSLY, this same Jesus would be even MORE appalled, at the suggestion that he might one day be the CAUSE of infinitely worse suffering.

    Pilgrim,

    Two things. I’ll start with your last point. The doctrine of Hell has nothing to do with the idea of justice. Now, there are serious problems with the idea that “justice” means causing someone to feel the same hurt that they caused others, the old eye for an eye. The core message of Jesus was that this idea is nothing more than an endless cycle of revenge, and it does not good. His idea was to forgive and learn to break the cycle.

    But even if you go along with the eye for an eye, even a Hitler would one day pay for all his sins, though it might take a long time. Hell, however, is ETERNAL. It is, be any definition, anything but “just,” if by just that the punishment ought to fit the crime.

    To your first point, it’s true that we will never be absolutely certain who said what in the Bible, or how much of it was just completely made up. So what we have to do is take what is actually said and weigh it on its own merits.

    In this sense, sure, it may not have been the actual, historical Jesus who came up the story found in Luke 9, where he was said to be so appalled at the idea of people suffering fiery torture for just a few, horrific minutes. But clearly, SOMEONE came up with this story, and the idea behind it–that God is not some Cosmic Nazi, but a compassionate parent. So when we’re examining the sayings attributed to Jesus in the gospels, you have to think of them as a river of ideas, with many currents. The much larger current, shows a Jesus who viewed God as compassionate, a much smaller one has a different Jesus, who makes God out to be an uncaring Cosmic Monster. While it can’t be proven in a laboratory, the most logical explanation for these two, very contradictory currents is that one was added later.

    Given the other historical information we have about the huge influx of Greek believers in later decades after Jesus’ death, it’s much more likely the Pro Hades Jesus was the adulteration, not the other way around.

  12. Rick:

    Let’s cut to the chase.

    Ultimately you have rejected the Bible. And now your goal is to encourage as many others to do the same.

    You are not here to learn but to spread seeds of doubt.

    Your brand of “hath God really said?” is no different than Satan’s attack on God’s Word to Eve.

    DefCon’s purpose is to defend truth and contend for the Faith from people like you. You are a false teacher. Harsh words? Yes. But Jesus and the Apostles warned us of people like you because of the eternal damage you cause.

    Because this blog’s purpose is to defend the Faith from guys like you, not only would it be counterproductive and counterintuitive to permit you to further poison the minds of the saints, but it would actually be a sin to allow DefCon to be a platform for your damnable heresies and doctrines of demons.

    Please find another venue by which to prey on the sheep in your endeavor to shipwreck the faith of His children.

    – The Pilgrim

  13. Rick,

    You wrote:

    “For example, in Luke 9:51-56, is a story about his great disappointment with his disciples when they actually suggested imploring God to rain FIRE on a village just because they had rejected him. His response: “You don’t know what spirit is inspiring this kind of talk!””

    From the Bible (Luke 9:51-56):

    “51When the days drew near for him to be taken up, he set his face to go to Jerusalem. 52And he sent messengers ahead of him, who went and entered a village of the Samaritans, to make preparations for him. 53But the people did not receive him, because his face was set toward Jerusalem.

    “54And when his disciples James and John saw it, they said, “Lord, do you want us to tell fire to come down from heaven and consume them?”

    “55But he turned and rebuked them. 56And they went on to another village.”

    I would like to suggest that in the passage you cite, Jesus was rebuking the OVER-zealous desire to punish the people without knowing their hearts regarding the Lord… but Jesus knew. He had a plan and the disciples presumed to impose their PERCEPTIONS on His plan.

    Take a look at Jonah! God sent him to the Assyrians, where Jonah (finally) delivered perhaps one of the shortest repentance sermons on record:

    Jonah 3:4-5
    “4Jonah began to go into the city, going a day’s journey. And he called out, “Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!”

    “5 And the people of Nineveh believed God. They called for a fast and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least of them.”

    And they repented!

    Jonah 3:6-10
    “6The word reached the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, removed his robe, covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.

    “7And he issued a proclamation and published through Nineveh, “By the decree of the king and his nobles: Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste anything. Let them not feed or drink water, 8but let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and let them call out mightily to God. Let everyone turn from his evil way and from the violence that is in his hands. 9 Who knows? God may turn and relent and turn from his fierce anger, so that we may not perish.”

    “10When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, God relented of the disaster that he had said he would do to them, and he did not do it.

    Rick, what do we do with the REST of the Bible which clearly describes Jesus’ return as (not the Lamb, but) the Lion!

    The Bible describes the Lord as treading out His enemies until His garments are soaked in their blood…

    Isaiah 63:3-6
    “3 “I have trodden the winepress alone,
    and from the peoples no one was with me;
    I trod them in my anger
    and trampled them in my wrath;
    their lifeblood spattered on my garments,
    and stained all my apparel.
    4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart,
    and my year of redemption had come.
    5I looked, but there was no one to help;
    I was appalled, but there was no one to uphold;
    so my own arm brought me salvation,
    and my wrath upheld me.
    6I trampled down the peoples in my anger;
    I made them drunk in my wrath,
    and I poured out their lifeblood on the earth.”

    You see, Rick, our sins are an affront to a perfectly holy God. He has provided a Way to be saved, through repentance and faith in Jesus Christ alone.

    For those who are too proud to receive His free gift, God is storing up wrath every day until their judgment, at which time He will pour out His wrath and indignation on those who turned their backs on His Son.

    What else could He have done to save you?

    Hebrews 10:29
    “29How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?”

    So, Rick…

    You have seen from Scripture that your interpretation of the events of Luke 9:51-56 is questionable…

    and you have seen from Scripture that Hell in indeed eternal…

    Also, you have seen from Scripture what the judgment of God is on the unrepentant…

    Do you really love your sin THAT much?

    What will you do with God’s Son?

    Either way, you will have an eternity to consider your answer.

    – Jeff H

  14. Rick said, Now you’re playing the circular reasoning card! “Hell must be true because there are verses that say it exists in the Bible.” You presuppose that every word in the Bible is true, but you’ve no evidence to support this presumption. Further, the Bible is full of contradictory ideas so, at best, only certain parts are might be true,

    Rick, you do realize that by claiming that, that you contradict your own argument since you claim that Jesus said what He did in Luke 9–but doesn’t that mean that you are presupposing that He actually said that? Are you not, also, “presupposing” that Jesus actually said those words? So you see, you are not being quite honest, because you are “presupposing” certain things are true in a book that you don’t even believe to be true. That is about the most absurd line of thought I have seen.

    Second, your statement Here’s the magic bullet. In at least one passage, the one I quoted from Luke 9, it’s VERY CLEAR Jesus was appalled at the very suggestion that people be hurt and caused to suffer, even though they had rejected him (which, by the way, is NO “magic bullet” as made clear by a careful study of the history of the canon). If this is true, then you are saying that Jesus was appalled at some of the things His Father did in the past.

    Things like………
    –Destroying the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone (after being warned)
    –Wiping out all humanity (save 8 people) with a flood (which Noah warned people about for years)
    –Opening up the earth and swallowing those who worshiped a golden calf (after they were warned)
    –Opening up the earth and swallowing the sons of Korah when they challenged Aaron’s priesthood (after they were warned)
    –Allowing the entire nation of Israel to be taken into captivity by such barbaric nations as Babylonia and Assyria because they would not give up their false idols (after they were warned)
    –Sending swarm after swarm of locusts to devour every green thing (see Joel ch. 1-2)

    Oh, wait, stop!!! My bad!! I forgot, all those stories were added later by pagan Greeks weren’t they? They weren’t part of the OT that the Jewish people read for thousands of years. Those were all just made-up stories.

    Right?

  15. >>Now you’re playing the circular reasoning card! “Hell must be true because there are verses that say it exists in the Bible.” You presuppose that every word in the Bible is true,>>

    You are right in that we presuppose the Bible is true! God says in His Word, “Let God be true and every man a liar!” This would include anyone who tries to claim that all that is in Scripture is not true. When you begin taking out parts of the Bible or saying that there are parts that are not valid then you are calling God a liar.

    Like I said in my previous comment, “So many people want to pull bits and pieces out of Scripture that they don’t like. It kind of reminds me of the book of Jeremiah. One of the people took his writings to the king and he just cut out the part that he didn’t want to hear or didn’t like. He then threw it in the fire with no concern about God.”

    >>but you’ve no evidence to support this presumption.<<

    Interestingly enough, you have no evidence to support that the Word of God isn't true! We have evidence within our own lives that show forth the testimony that God is real and the Word of God is true! Ask my family what I was like years ago as compared to what I am like now. I can even go so far as to tell you that I know the wickedness within my own heart and how the Lord has changed me in so many ways. No, I couldn't do it on my own because I tried and I always failed. I still fail but I know that I have proved the Lord and He is faithful in every way! The Word of God is true and I have yet to see it proved false in any way! What I have realized through the years is that my understanding of God's Word can prove to be false but God's Word has NEVER proven false in any way!

  16. There’s two errors at work in those who deny the clearly taught doctrine of Hell.

    One is that they place their ‘feelings’ above that of God’s Word. They reject Sola Scriptura for their experience and their feelings: “I don’t think/believe/feel that God would ever send someone to Hell.”

    Secondly, those who reject the doctrine of Hell do so on the grounds of a two-pronged erroneous view of the character of God and the sinfulness of man. They refuse to see the wretched sinfulness of sin and the pure holiness of God in their truest and purest forms.

    They do not understand that it was one sin that cast all of mankind into darkness and death which required the death of the Son of God as the only means to redeem mankind. And it only takes one sin against an infinitely holy God to justify an eternal punishment.

    After all, God shed His own blood (Acts 20:28) to save His people, and to say that the rejection of His sacrifice deserves something less than eternal punishment is to claim that God’s own blood is something less than priceless.

    – The Pilgrim

    P.S. Here are some Scriptures on Hell:

    Daniel 12:2 Everlasting Abhorrence

    Matthew 5:22 Go Into Fiery Hell

    Matthew 5:29-30 Maimed / Heaven & Whole/ Hell

    Matthew 8:12 Darkness, Weeping, Teeth Gnashing

    Matthew 10:28 Fear Who Destroys Body/Soul in Hell

    Matthew 24:51 Weeping, Teeth Gnashing

    Matthew 25:30 Darkness, Weeping, Teeth Gnashing

    Matthew 25:41 Eternal Fire

    Matthew 25:46 Eternal Punishment / Eternal Life

    Mark 9:42-48 Better Millstone Thrown Into the Sea

    Mark 9:43-48 Unquenchable Fire Worm Doesn’t Die

    Luke 3:17 Unquenchable Fire

    Luke 16:19-28 Rich Man in Hell and Beggar

    2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 Eternal Destruction Away From God

    Jude 7 Punishment of Eternal Fire

    Jude 13 Darkness Reserved Forever

    Revelation 14:10-11 Torment & No Rest

    Revelation 19:20 Lake of Fire Burning With Brimstone

    Revelation 20:1-3 The Abyss

    Revelation 20:13-15 Lake of Fire

    Matthew 10:15 More Tolerable for Sodom

    Matthew 11:22, 24 More Tolerable for Sodom

    Matthew 16:27 Repay According to Man’s Deeds

    Luke 12:47-48 Many Lashes vs Few Lashes

    Hebrews 10:29-31 Severer Punishment / Terrifying God

    Revelation 22:12 Repay According to What Man Did

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