The Pilgrim
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Sandra Tanner, of Utah Lighthouse Ministries, speaks for a few moments about a pedophile prophet–no, not Muhammed, but close–Joseph Smith. From the Manti evangelism seminar (via Mormon Coffee):
Sandra Tanner: Joseph Smith as a sexual predator
Posted: July 16, 2009 by fourpointer in Evangelism, MormonismTags: Manti pageant, Mormon Coffee, Mormonism Research Ministries, pedophile, Sandra Tanner, Utah Lighthouse, why we do what we do
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Joseph Smith was one of the worst of the false prophets as he used manipulation to satisfy the lusts of his eyes and the lusts of his flesh with those who were still children. His wickedness knew no bounds.
I wonder if all those today who “follow the prophet” would feel comfortable leaving their young daughters alone with this predator.
Sad and sick. If Joseph Smith were alive today he’d have to register as a sex offender.
- The Pilgrim
Actually Pilgrim,
If he were alive today, he would be in the state penitentiary for statutory rape and a host of other crimes. This would also be true for the majority of the Mormon elders as well. Sadly, when a man-made religion is allowed to run rampant (or it is run by fear), the result is the complete moral breakdown of that society and the utter disregard for the commands of Scripture.
In the 1700′s, the average age of marriage for females was 12.5 and males 13.5 (when life expectancy was 30-40 years) so this point is basically silly. I know Joseph Smith was born in early 1800′s, but my point is still valid.
Did you actually watch the video? I would recommend you listen to how Joseph Smith used lies and manipulation to add to his harem before blindly jumping to his defense.
If only Dr. Phil was around to help Joe Smith.
I’m not defending how anyone “fools” anyone else into marrying them (just like my husband “fooled” me), I’m just saying that almost all of our great-great-grandparents got married younger than the girl who was almost 17 and it was “normal”. To “monday morning quarterback” over 150 years later and apply todays standards of being a “sexual predator” is ridiculous/silly because of the girls age at that time. Contrary to modern Western customs, it was acceptable in ancient times to marry close family relatives, including cousins and nieces. It was evidently also common for men to have more than one wife, and even to have children with women who were not their wives (slaves or concubines). For example, Abraham’s first son was the child of his wife’s slave-girl; and one biblical tradition even says that his wife, Sarah, was actually his half-sister. Similarly, the twelve sons of Jacob have four different mothers: the two wives of Jacob (who are his first cousins) and two other women (slave-girls of his wives).
Criticize Joe Smith because of his claim to be have seen God and Jesus Christ standing next to him, not for some silly sociological fine point.
or the many versions he came up with about that “story”.
If Abraham were alive today . . . he’d still be one of God’s chosen . . . and in jail . . . LOL. And no, I’m not comparing Giuseppe Smith to Abraham!
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4*P says: I edited your four comments into one. I have neither removed nor added anything to the original
grace,
Tell me how the false prophet Joe Smith throwing out male members from his religious cult so he could climb in bed with their wife is just a “silly sociological fine point.”
This is NOT an issue about some young man under the age of 18 choosing to marry a young lady under the age of 18 and looking to start a family. This is about a sexual deviant who used sex as a weapon to entice and warp the minds of his followers into believing that they would not inherit the celestial kingdom unless they did his bidding.
Sadly, for all of his soothsaying and adulterous ways, Joe never learned and died as an unrepentant sinner, condemned before a holy and righteous God and will spend eternity in hell forever for his outright rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ, Who Alone is the Eternal Son of God and very God Himself.
The Desert Pastor
So I suppose sending Joseph Smith a father out of state so he can use fear and intimidation to manipulate a teenage girl into his bed is a “sociological fine point.”
I will ask you again: Did you actually watch the video? Or are you afraid to actually hear the truth? If you were to actually watch and listen, you may actually understand what you are talking about.
Desert Pastor, your logic train doesn’t make sense, mixing and matching arguments. Your last paragraph was 100 fold more convincing than the first 2 (based on the arguments in my previous comment, which by the way TY for stringing my ADD postings together 4*P).
4*P – of course I watched the video and was disappointed by the lack of substance. It was like listening to historical gossip that was designed to further prejudice ONLY people who already think Jose Smith was a bum. Not convincing to anyone else because of lack of GOSPEL oriented points AKA THE GOOD NEWS, instead of the historical Jerry Springer show. It’s like all the junk coming up about Judas Iscariot concerning whether “was he GOOD or was he BAD”, did Jesus love him or did he know he would be betrayed by him. Did he actually tell Judas it was okay to betray him? I mean, c’mon – Faith in and confession of Jesus as Lord, repentance, baptism, Prayer, there are some good topics to combat the Mormons with as well as convince the undecided cybernauts.
I’m wondering why my comments were deleted from this post.
They were on-topic, Biblical, Reformed, and showed concern for sharing the Gospel with Mormons.
They were here a few weeks, then gone.