19 thoughts on “John MacArthur on TBN?

  1. Question: How does “denying yourself” fit in with Reformed Theology? This is not really a challenge I am just trying to figure out how one would explain it because denying yourself can be seen as an act of the will.

    Thank you.

  2. dfree,

    Reformed theology affirms Monergism in regeneration – that it is all of grace and all of God apart from any cooperation from sinful unbelieving man and it equally affirms Synergism in sanctification – cooperation between the gracious Spirit of God and the “new man” which is a regenerated, born-again, blood bought, saved, believing, spirit-filled new creature in Christ commonly known as a Christian. Yet even this cooperation is God wrought.

    It is important to understand that true regenerate Christians don’t cooperate with God to “earn” anything from Him or to “gain merit” in His eyes, instead we cooperate with Him from a childlike spirit of tenderness and out of an unspeakable debt of gratitude and love.

    God alone holds believers infallibly within His family by the Spirit of adoption and His Spirit chastens and corrects His children from glory to glory as we’re changed and conformed to the image of His Son by the Spirit wrought process of sanctification which continues until we die and are finally glorified in eternity. It is by God’s power alone that believers are enabled to cooperate with Him because without Him we could do nothing and in Him we live and move and have our being.

    A true born-again regenerate Christian is personally responsible to render obedience unto King Jesus which includes (among other commands) the command to deny oneself and take up one’s cross daily and follow after Him. We are to resist the devil and tear down demonic strongholds and take every thought captive to Christ.

    Our sinful fallen nature, the “old man” constantly wars against our re-born nature so that our two natures are at enmity with one another so long as we live in our earthly bodies.

    True believers obey imperfectly and we fail both miserably and frequently, but in contradistinction to the world and false converts true believers abhor our sin and flee to the cross falling down before the Infinite Creator and Judge of the universe confessing and grieving over our sins and pleading for His forgiveness, whereas the worldling is righteous in his own eyes, justifying himself in his pet sins and trespasses by comparing himself with other sinful men.

    The self-righteous religious man utterly fails to recognize that God’s standard is absolute sinless perfection, not simply being better than “the other guy” or being able to tick off a list of the “big sins” that he hasn’t committed in the flesh even as he blithely ignores the fact that in his heart he is an abominable, lying, thieving, adulterous murderer who stands condemned.

    I hope this helps.

    In Christ,
    CD

  3. Praise God, for preachers like John Macarthur who preach the truth. We all need to pray for these men that they remain faithful in these days of apostacy. I am listening to his sermons on GTY . I’m learning so much. The gospel doesn’t sound very appealing, but once we know Jesus it is everything that we will ever need

  4. How refreshing to see true Christians on Trinity Broadcasting Network. It’s about time! I commend Way of the Master for getting on TBN to proclaim the truth and for Dr. MacArthur for proclaiming the truth! Soli Deo Gloria!

  5. I got a chuckle out of all the clapping going on after John made a point. I was wondering if they really knew what he was saying? Are these the same guest that will clap for Benny Hinn in the next show or was the audience friends of “Grace to you” ministries? If they are typical TBN fans, how do they clap for John and Benny at the same time?

  6. John MacArthur on TBN??? This is unreal. Is he on TBN destroying the very thing that TBN promotes (Word/Faith)?

    I can’t believe it.

  7. Mac goes a tear at 7:52 in the second video, expositing 2 Cor 5:21. How can people who fill up TBN studio seats applaud Truth one day and hell-spewed error many other days?

  8. The interview was good and I have no doubt that God will use it for good because His word going forth always accomplishes that which he purposes. Herein, hopefully many will be delivered from the snare of TBN genie-in-the-bottle false preachers like Benny Hinn, Ken Copeland, Paula White, etc.

    I do have serious concerns though with John MacArthur (and others) appearing on TBN because of how it will work to broaden the TBN audience, increase monies given to build their damnable empire, and validate their goal to be viewed as a true Christian station. So much so that even folks who never would have thought of watching this station of devils, now will turn in and even support/promote them because of a rich diversity of speakers appealing to so many varied beliefs.

    This being the TBN business model where they state that TBN is “…the world’s largest religious network and America’s most watched faith channel. TBN offers 24 hours of commercial-free inspirational programming that appeal to people in a wide variety of Protestant, Catholic and Messianic Jewish denominations.” (from Website About Us)

    Sounds like this covers nearly everyone. This also witnessed to by viewing their scheduling where you can confirm that TBN subscribes to Burger King religion where the consumer can have it their way. Whether it be Greg Laurie for the Calvary Chapel folks, D. James Kennedy and special guests like John MacArthur for those more reformed, “father” Michael Manning for the Catholics, Creflo (give me your) Dollar(s), Benny Hinn and Paula White for the money hungry masses, or John Hagee, Perry Stone and Grant Jeffery for those with dispensational/prophetic inclinations.

    So it seems that nearly everyone can find something to like at ecumenical TBN. And if a speaker is appearing on the show, he/she really cannot name names and mark those who walk contrary to sound doctrine because once done, I cannot help but imagine that the speaker would be escorted off the stage and never asked back.

    I’m curious to hear what others think about this.

  9. brother Michael,

    2 Timothy 4:1-5 “1 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.

    “3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

    “5As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.”

    So, for those lost souls who happened to tune into their favorite apostate TV station for a fresh dose of ear tickling, they heard the true Gospel preached instead. Seeds were sown.

    The audience of goats heard the Words of Eternal Life. May the Lamb that was slain receive the reward of His suffering.

    brother Michael, it is always right to obey Christ’s Great Commission.

    Blessings,

    – Jeff H

  10. Jeff,
    Greetings. Regarding your comment that “it is always right to obey Christ’s Great Commission” I do not believe this trumps all the other commands such as light having no fellowship with darkness and for us to mark those that walk contrary to sound doctrine and avoidthem. Even contained within the verse you quoted are commands I contend are to be delivered to TBN – i.e. reprove, and rebuke; this is my point exactly.

    For if it were simply a matter of just preaching the gospel side by side with apostates on the street corner or at their churches/on their TV stations, then we might as well look to book time with EWTN.

    Likewise, if your contention is true then we should not blink an eye when Driscoll preaches with Schuller, Zacharias with the Mormons, or Colson with the Catholics. None of this I see in the NT but rather commands to separate from those who are clearly apostate where we are to come out from amongst them. For example, John the apostle did not preach side by side with Diotrephes nor Paul with Hymenaeus and Alexander. Rather, they marked these men and had nothing to do with them or their ministry.

    I do agree w/ your assessment for the lost souls being greatly benefited when turning into TBN. Yes, seeds were sown and I herein do greatly rejoice in that and pray that many will be delivered from the doctrines of demons on TBN.

    Peace in our Lord,
    Michael

  11. Hi brother Michael,

    I do indeed see the area of concern you are talking about.

    What came to my mind when I read your first post here was Paul in Athens. He was addressing false teaching and doing so in a location that was also shared by numerous orators presenting false teaching.

    Acts 17:18-23

    “18 Some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers also conversed with him. And some said, “What does this babbler wish to say?” Others said, “He seems to be a preacher of foreign divinities”—because he was preaching Jesus and the resurrection. 19And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, “May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting? 20For you bring some strange things to our ears. We wish to know therefore what these things mean.” 21Now all the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there would spend their time in nothing except telling or hearing something new.

    “22 So Paul, standing in the midst of the Areopagus, said: “Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. 23For as I passed along and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, ‘To the unknown god.’ What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you.”

    At the time, Paul did not express any concern regarding his presence at that location possibly lending credibility to the venue (one of false teaching) nor to any of the false teachers.

    Perhaps a way to avoid ANY possibility of that happening, a Christian could begin his sermon by distancing himself from the false teachings normally coming from that venue’s pulpit.

    The preacher could then immediately present the true Gospel (repentance and faith). Hopefully the preacher would be spared the “hook” long enough to articulate a complete salvation message.

    That being said, I agree that it can be a slippery slope in that I would not condone, for example, going into a bar to preach.

    There are plenty of fish at the supermarket.
    :)

    In Jesus,

    – Jeff

  12. TBN is a global TV network with many programmers from a wide range of denominational backgrounds. One of the criteria for airing a show on TBN is that a programmer cannot spend more than 1.5 mins. trying to raise money, which of course, is necessary for anyone that buys TV airtime. Christian TV is no different. There are 2 fund raising events on TBN, and all the other Christian TV networks, each year. Usually in the Fall and Spring. This is when TBN raises money to pay for their global network. They do not allow people to buy advertising on their network, so fund raising and the money that programmers pay for airtime, are the ONLY source of income. TBN is the 6th largest broadcast network in the world (bigger most of the secular networks like ABC, NBC, Fox etc.) I’m not sure how people expect them to support this massive network for ‘free’. Airtime and satellites are extremely expensive. I actually have some of John MacArthur’s audio books, which I enjoy. I am somewhat surprised by his very slanted, and in many cases, inaccurate portrayal of TBN. He is demonizing an entire TV network, which has programs from conservative denominations, full gospel churches, Jewish and Catholic churches. TBN also has 4 other networks which are really great. JCTV for teens, Smile of a Child for kids, TBN Enlace for Hispanics, and The Church Channel, which is 24/7 church services (from all kinds of churches). I think John MacArthur’s article is actually very disappointing, and divisive. Why can’t the ‘church’ respect the differences that the many denominations have when it comes to how they worship? My thoughts.

  13. If Christians continue to cut one another to the bone, how can the True Gospel of Jesus Christ ever be believed and spread as the Lord commands us to do. I do not agree with every single Bible-proclaiming speaker and preacher but I do see and hear many good Godly men and women on TBN. Let’s concentrate on doing God’s will and spreading the Good News to the unchurched, unsaved and people desparate for a relationship with our Sovereign God. Enough said…..

  14. Victoria,

    God commands us to mark and expose false teachers. While He can save who He chooses with “bent tools” of imperfect Gospel proclamations, He does give His chosen ones to willingly deploy or support such. We must strive for biblical accuracy and purity. A false Gospel is a fatal gospel. And most TBN preachers preach a false gospel – which is no gospel at all.

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