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Your best flight now?

Here’s the ABC News story on Victoria Osteen (Joel Oteen’s wife) who is accused of going into a rage because a flight crew didn’t clean up a spill on the armrest of her first-class seat quickly enough.

6 comments on “Your best flight now?

  1. It’s entirely possible that Mrs. Osteen’s motives have simply been grossly misunderstood. In fact it may well be that Victoria was employing Todd Bentley’s tactics to heal the flight attendant. Perhaps the gift of faith came upon Mrs. Osteen mid-flight and the Holy Spirit told her to elbow and shove the flight attendant to bring about her very own Miracle at 34,000 Feet.

    After Lakeland we have to at least consider the plausibility of such an argument, do we not?

    “CLEAN MY ARMREST!! BAM!!!”

  2. I’m just ROFLing at the photo…. Could this (please LORD) be the beginning of a slow downfall for the Joeley-Os?

  3. Its a tragic story, but isn’t printing it like this with weird photo akin to malicious gossip?
    I’d started to come regularly to your blog because it always avoided personal attacks. There are cases on other (good)discernment blogs where the tone is sometimes sarcastic and belittling. Please don’t fall into this way. Discern and warn in fear and trembling, knowing that ‘but for the grace of God…..’
    don’t mean to sound horrid, but just a plea. Your blog has been a tremendous help. Here in Scandinavia, we have a spiritual drought too. Keep up the thought provoking, challenging work!!! Thanks

  4. Revelation 18…… Come out of her my people.

  5. Rolig,

    You’ve asked a serious question and it deserves a serious response.

    Firstly I don’t view the photo of VO used in this post as being “weird”. In fact I’d suggest that if the altercation took place as alleged then the look on VO’s face probably wasn’t like the one you see plastered across her face on national television – you know, the one where it looks like she just beheld the beatific vision? In fact I’d suggest that the picture in this post is a much closer approximation of her appearance, if the flight attendant’s allegations are true.

    Secondly this post and the comments thus far are obviously satire (from dictionary.com):

    sat•ire /ˈsætaɪər/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[sat-ahyuhr]
    –noun 1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
    2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.

    Satire is an eminently useful and Biblical tool of correction and rebuke that shouldn’t be mistaken for insult. In fact in the OT the prophet Elijah ridiculed the apostatizing people of Israel as well as the prophets of Baal (from Wikipedia):

    When Ahab confronts Elijah, he refers to him as the “troubler of Israel.” Elijah responds by throwing the charge back at Ahab, saying that it is Ahab who has troubled Israel by allowing the worship of false gods. Elijah then berates both the people of Israel and Ahab for their acquiescence in Baal worship. “How long will you go limping with two different opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal then follow him” (1 Kings 18:21). And the people were silent.

    At this point Elijah proposes a test of the powers of Baal and Yahweh the God of Israel. The people of Israel, 450 prophets of Baal, and 400 prophets of Asherah are summoned to Mount Carmel. Two altars are built, one for Baal and one for Yahweh. Wood is laid on the altars. Two oxen are slaughtered and cut into pieces; the pieces are laid on the wood. Elijah then invites the priests of Baal to pray for fire to light the sacrifice. They pray from morning to noon without success. Elijah ridicules their efforts. They respond by cutting themselves and adding their own blood to the sacrifice. They continue praying until evening without success.

    Elijah now orders that the altar of Yahweh, and its sacrifice, be drenched with water (twelve barrels of water). He asks God to accept the sacrifice. Fire falls from the sky, igniting the sacrifice. The people who witness this immediately begin worshiping Yahweh. Elijah seizes the moment and orders the death of the prophets of Baal.

    You see Rolig, an insult is a personal attack, but exposing folly by satire is well within the bounds of Christianity and is in fact found to have Biblical precedent.

    In closing please accept my apology on behalf of Team DefCon for having given you cause to stumble in your faith. This is never our intent and we do take our responsibility seriously. I’ll add you and your region to my prayers and go before the throne of the One True and Living God and plead with Him that the Rivers of Living Water might gush through Scandinavia!

    In Him,
    CD

  6. Thank you for taking the time for a serious and loving response. Its only my second time commenting on a blog and I know its hard to write so folk can ‘hear’ your tone. I was afraid I’d come across as a complainer.

    I find the tone on some blogs very hard to take, but REALLY enjoy good satire. (loved the mememe song! and pyro’s emergent posters!) I reacted to this one, as I felt reporting the event was damnng/ridiculous enough.

    re the ‘beatific look’. i do know what you mean. Many times I can’t bear ‘worship’ because of these sham looks/sounds.

    Thank you for the reminder of Elijah. He was a master in ridicule and this particular event always raises a smile for me. i may be oversensitive, but I have a well-honed sense of humour/irony!

    Discernment is vital for me. I’ve seen leader after leader here accepting the worst drivel, never checking in their Bibles. i warn as I’m able, and had the joy lately of the pastor here actually wanting (and accepting) my knowledge of Todd B. (which he’d first endorsed out of desperation to see a move of God! But too late to check the damage of the endorsement)

    You haven’t caused me to stumble! I’m fully aware, that Jesus was not always ‘gentle and mild’. Some of His deliveries were scorchers!
    I’ve often been in a position where I’ve spoken out forcefully/ the Truth as noone else would. As a fearful, emotional woman, I tremble each time and have sleepless nights, but there has been fruit, though there are others who take offence, and call me ‘judgemental and divisive’.

    Your last warm comments had me in tears. My situation here is dire, and not just church-wise. I would so appreciate prayer for wisdom. But so far resting in Him, despite having NO light yet.

    woops, hadn’t meant to post all that! well, let it stand.

    didn’t mean to write so long. was more to get it off my chest!
    ps. the ‘Truth’ I spoke out was often just the Gospel (!)

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