Sex In Christ: A Proposal For Christian Pornography

I never thought I’d actually get to say these two words out loud or even type them — “Christian pornography”.

Wow!

Mind you, that “wow” I’m exhaling is not done in joyful excitement, but in total despair that the Church is sliding further and further into complete apostasy.

I think this is the lowest point ever and we should all have seen it coming, really — what with all the initial pushes at the boundaries of good sense with churches distributing flyers in neighborhoods shouting (without shame, I might add) programs at church to realize (to paraphrase the title of a popular book) “Your Best Sex Now!” and even “sex challenges” where married couples are encouraged to have sex everyday for 30 days while singles try to abstain for the same period of time.

On another site, they are justifying the introduction of “Christian pornography” or “erotica with Biblical foundations” as they call it within the following proposed framework (quoted with my comments right after in italics):

It must depict only married couples engaging in sexual acts. This means that any sexual partners in a Christian porn production must be husband and wife, both on and off screen. All actors must be married in real life and portray married couples on-screen. And they must only be depicted having sex with their wedded spouses.

Right, if its a married couple acting out their coupling on-screen, it’s alright?!

It must portray sex within the context of a Christian marriage. It must be apparent through the actions, behaviors, and speech of the characters portrayed that they are Christian, lead a Christian lifestyle, and have a marriage in which their faith is central. This could be depicted in a variety of ways, with scenes showing a couple praying together, studying the Bible, attending church or church functions, and generally relating to one another as loving Christian spouses outside of the bedroom.

How in the world do you portray sex within the context of a Christian marriage that can be apparent through the actions, behaviors and speech of the characters portrayed?! Will saying “I’m a Christian and God bless you” before someone gets right into the act make it so?! Is it truly Christian if the couple only do it in the missionary position?

It must be instructional. Part of the mission of Christian pornography is to graphically educate married believers in how to achieve more sexual pleasure, intimacy, and closeness in their relationships. It can do this by dramatizing various sexual techniques and positions so that couples can learn how to incorporate them into their lovemaking routines. In their on-screen roles, the actors should model both correct sexual techniques and appropriate sexual attitudes, by being respectful and treating one another’s bodies as the sacred gift from God that they are.

Husband and wife must both receive their due benevolence. This is in keeping with the scriptural mandate of I Corinthians 7:3, which says “Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.” This means that both sex partners must be shown getting equal pleasure and sexual attention from one another.

No extramarital sex, unless it is to illustrate the downfalls of adultery. The spouses in a Christian porn production must never have adulterous relations, unless they (and their partner in extramarital crime) suffer and are punished fittingly for their sins. (In deference to modern conventions, the punishment does not have to be one mandated by scripture, i.e., being stoned to death.)

So, yea, right, if you want to show the downside of a sin, do the sin itself?

It must be uplifting and inspirational, focusing on strengthening Christian marriage and Christian faith. Christian porn must have an overall positive message. Of course, its primary message would be to demonstrate the sacred use of sexuality and sensuality to reinforce the bonds of Christian marriage. But in all other respects, it should affirm Christian values of community, family, faith, honesty, charity, and so forth. It should show that having a joyous and fulfilling married sex life is one of the fruits of following the path of righteousness.

No profanity. Although exclamations of pleasure are acceptable, as are the natural sounds and vocalizations of lovemaking, Christian porn should contain no profanity or swearing. The participants should address each other lovingly and respectfully at all times. Of course, it goes without saying that the actors will not take the Lord’s name in vain, nor that of his Son.

So, yea, looking at pornographic pictures is bad and so is watching pornographic films, but if you are watching a Christian couple who are married to each other go at it on camera, it’s supposed to be alright and even Biblical?!

I’m speechless with disgust and anger!

17 thoughts on “Sex In Christ: A Proposal For Christian Pornography

  1. I had to check the site out, just to see what they were about. That has got to be some parody website, set up by people who have no knowledge of the Bible, or perhaps some atheist or something trying to make Christians look bad. Because if these people are seriously claiming to be Christians, and they think that what they are advocating is Christian–let’s just say they are the most biblically-illiterate people I have ever read.

    Every Bible verse they use to try and defend their perversions is ripped so far out of context, and so badly misinterpreted that if it wasn’t so serious, it would almost be laughable.

    I’ll save you the trouble of reading it, but they use Jeremiah 49:4, which talks about a “backsliding heifer” to justify anal sex. That’s like using John 19:28 Jesus said, “I thirst!” and trying to say that Jesus wanted the soldiers to bring Him a beer.

    This is the very same stuff that Paul had to root out of the early church in places like Corinth and Ephesus. People who wanted to call themselves Christian but still hang on to their old perversions.

    These people are truly sick (and sickening) and need to be prayed for.

  2. Renee says:

    That is really sad but I am not surprised. I want to believe it is a parody or joke but I would not be surprised if this is for real. I honestly believe we will be seeing temple prostitutes in what calls itself a church some day. Even so Lord Jesus, Come quickly!!!

  3. Balaam's Ass says:

    Is this group affiliated with anyone? Are there any supposedly Christian organizations or individuals associated with the porn group?
    Are you sure it isn’t just a bad joke?
    I won’t visit the site myself. Can’t go there.
    But I am awfully curious.

    On another note: It reminds me of something Pastor David Wilkerson saw decades ago in his Vision.

  4. I think I saw this about a year ago. At least the bondage part. Talking about spanking his wife.

    I believe its a spoof. Now I know there is some very crazy stuff out there so I am not putting it past them but this just seems like a well planned hoax.

  5. widsith says:

    You know, I also want to believe it’s a hoax, but then again I met a young, inner-city church several yeas ago that thought it was cool when its pastor used the F-word. You never know what people will do to push the envelope ‘in the name of Christ’.

  6. I agree. I saw the same article. It’s put on by those claiming Christ, but Christ is far from them. They may not know it, but they are catering to the flesh – theirs and others. Trying to rationalize it, they are saying, “it will get non-believers interested in Christ” – but without realizing we cannot sell the gospel. Listen to this sermon. It mentions the article as well, and critiques it. http://www.gty.org/Resources/Sermons/GTY122

  7. brother Michael says:

    I did not read this post but only scanned it. Here, I think there are times when we need to leave the dung where it stands and not recycle it and give it center stage. Here, I think of where Paul said that “…it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.”

    Our minds are flooded with this filth daily where just reading it can cause believers to stumble. Thus, I do see any reason to continue to propagate the filth by giving it more air time and even pointing people to the source.

  8. Quatic says:

    I have searched and searched and found not a single verse of the Bible which prohibits a Christian married couple from watching educational videos for sexual technique, that those videos have a Christian married couple acting as the law permits.

  9. Jeff H says:

    Quatic,

    Voyeuristic publications have no place in the Christian home. Adam and Eve needed no instruction and neither do you.

    Nice try.

  10. Christopher L. Colegrove says:

    I agree Jeff H., a good statement. Quatic, I’d recommend the sermon I posted earlier. There’s nothing wrong with sex in a marriage relationship, but there is something wrong watching other people in that intimate situation. It reminds me of the Noah/Ham/Canaan situation slightly, but even that’s not a good example. Adam and Eve didn’t have other people watching them either. When I try to teach my son how to use the bathroom to be potty trained, I won’t have him watch me use the bathroom personally. That’s how I view it. Since pornography is such a snare in believer’s lives, especially men, but not excluding women, it seems counterproductive to have a church support one form or another of pornography. “For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify [aka put to death] the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” – Romans 8:13. Direct quote. We are to live a Spirit-Filled Life.

  11. revivalandreformation says:

    Want to see a famous preacher preach on nation wide TV concerning have intimate relations with Jesus Christ? Sad but true. It seems as sex sells for the world, the “church” is now using the same marketing techniques to get their product out as well.

    http://revivalandreformation.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/creflo-and-his-disgusting-heresies/

    Plus there are people we know who are deeply involved with XXXchurch, the “Gospel” for port stars, I guess when these poor souls get saved, they still have to work…? Ugh.

  12. Okie Preacher says:

    I ave been a Christian for 38 years and thought I had just about seen and heard it all. This leaves me speechless. I could of never conceived of such.

  13. Jonathan Colegrove says:

    This thoroughly displeases me. The people in charge of this are trying to rationalize lust by dreaming up an unscriptural loophole.

    I like the title to Joshua Harris’s book: “Sex is not the problem, lust is.” It is so true. It would be difficult to not physically sin sexually when lusting, and there is no possible way someone can act out sexually without lusting. You can be sure if someone has fallen into a sexual sin that they have long been entertaining lustful thoughts for a long while. The 2 are impossible to separate.

    Jesus said in Matthew 5:27-28 “Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” THINKING about someone other than your spouse sexually is cheating, to say nothing of looking and lusting after other people. Many people don’t see it that way, but it’s really the same, just one is taking it a step further (physically doing something is a step beyond porn, porn is a step beyond bad thoughts). In the following verses Jesus goes on to talk about the seriousness of the crime by saying RADICALLY AMPUTATE the sin! “Christian” pornography would only invoke lustful thoughts in other people. Also the Bible talks about uncovering one’s nakedness as being shameful.

    “Instructional” material isn’t necessary either. It disguts me, but I’ve heard people say “Well you want to make sure they’re good before you settle down with just them forever.” Part of being married will be the joy of experiencing things with your partner and any “practice” you need with be a reason to share more of those experiences with them.

    You have to go to the source – don’t mop the floor when you really have a leaky roof!
    The best material I’ve ever come across for combatting lust and sexual sin are:
    – Every Man’s Battle
    http://www.SettingCaptivesFree.com

    A scripture verse for memory “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;” – 2 Corinthians 10:5

  14. Seth says:

    Looking is not wrong, wanting is. If you would have sex with the woman without marrying her if only circumstances were conducive, and you wish for such circumstances – then you are an adulterer wanna-be, and in your heart you are the same as one who finds the circumstances that facilitate the actions. “God sees what the heart is” (Proverbs?) and “what proceeds out of the heart.. is what defiles a man” (the Messiah himself), “hath committed adultery with her already in his heart” clearly show that it is the intention – the wish to have her body without the requisite husband-wife relationship expectation. It is not just the fantasy that means adultery on its own, but it is (after thus considering it), the choosing of that fantasy, that would include the ongoing search for its realization in some form, that fits the definition of adultery. If a person desires the woman, but in considering her, ultimately rejects such a desire in his heart – not based on the lack of opportunity – but because of his trust in God (and therefore that keeping his commandments is better than trusting ones own opinion), or his understanding of the cost of such an act (due to God’s knowledge of it and his just repayment to man to reap what he sows), then no adultery in his heart has happened.
    But if rather (because of the mans secret internal choice within his heart), the adultery WOULD occur if only the two were confident nobody (human) would ever find about it until it no longer mattered significantly, and/or the circumstances were romantic enough to draw them in to having sex outside of marriage, then the man who WOULD have committed adultery under the right circumstances does not have faith in his heart to keep God’s commands, or to do what he thinks God wants him to, he is kept from committing adultery by lack of opportunity only, as a nerd who wishes to lose his virginity before marriage but hasn’t due to his nerdy behavior (thus the nerd has not fornicated, but in his heart he is as a fornicator is). Looking is not a sin, seeking the opportunity to sin because your evaluation of it prioritizes it over doing Gods will is.
    Ultimately, its unbalanced priorities that is the sin of the heart, considering is judgment.
    Considering a woman’s beauty, and her potential for pleasure but rejecting it on the basis that God is more to be trusted than our shallow appraisals of value is righteous.
    Not noticing, is ignorant. If you can’t notice without making bad choices in your heart, then by all means don’t look – you lost an eye, but you’ve bought yourself time to build your hope into faith so that you don’t give way into doubt. If you have no ability to take care of a wife, gain that ability first before you look to get physical with a woman.
    If you don’t know the woman well enough to properly accept her as a wife, any stimulation on your part towards sexual readiness is a mistake based on subconscious deviations from reality, and you’d best change your line of thought somehow – its a slippery slope. But looking, or considering a sexual relationship with another when you already have a wife, is not sin by itself – that isn’t what Jesus said. A second wife may be possible, and this may be pleasing to God. A wife might divorce you, leaving you free to find the other, and though not ideal or something to wish for (that would be a sin), it is not outside reality as a valid consideration or trivial line of thought to glimpse at.
    Just keep in mind the most important things as much as possible, and keep your conscience, and God and his Son through whom God sends all good things will save you.

  15. DavidW says:

    Rather than see just how close we can flutter to the flame, it is wise for the Christian to take his heed to the behavior of the man God testified as “perfect and upright, and one that feared God and eschewed evil”:

    “I have made a covenant with my eyes; How then could I look upon a young woman?” (Job 31:1).

    Job knew the danger of men looking upon women, and what it can lead to, and in his uprightness chose to guard his eyes from looking upon young women. Consistent with “abstain from all appearance of evil” (1Thess.5:22), the righteous, upright man who desires to follow in God’s ways stays away from that which can even cause temptation to sin. He doesn’t dabble in things that COULD potentially cause him to sin.

    Any Christian who thinks it’s harmless to look upon “christian” sex acts is sadly mistaken.

  16. Lory says:

    Seth, you seem to say alot with Christian overtones but in the end you seem so lost and are trying to cover up your inkling for sin. Jesus said that to lust after a woman is the same as commiting adultery. He also said that if you divorce (which God hates) and remarry, you are commiting adultery. Paul said it too. You really really REALLY need to check your Bible. You are just like the many worldly “Christians” I run into in church-compromising with the world. How sad. Perfect exacmple of why Jesus said that it’s a “narrow door” and there are “few who find it.” People-please don’t fall for all this mumbo jumbo-THE WORD OF GOD IS THE STANDARD. it’s just not worth it to make excuses for why you have to play with a little fire. Fire is where you’ll be in the end. Has anybody looked up those people that have seen hell and lived to tell about it? Just google some key words about people going to hell-but be careful you don’t go onto the demonic stuff. Trust me when I tell you, it’ll give you a whole new perspective on dilly dallying with sin. Good luck.

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