Only 144,000 In Heaven (Give Or Take a Billion)

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that none of the Old Testament saints are going to heaven. Only 144,000 good Jehovah’s Witnesses (who have lived since Jesus’ death) will be in heaven. The Old Testament saints and today’s generation of JWs will eventually live on paradise on earth. If there’s one verse saying that anyone from the Old Testament will be in heaven, not only does the doctrine of the 144,000 crumble, but the entire religion crumbles and it becomes simple to explain how none of them will go to any sort of paradise.

Matthew 8:11 (NWT) says, “But I tell YOU that many from eastern parts and western parts will come and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of the heavens.”

Luke 13:28 says, “There is where [YOUR] weeping and the gnashing of [YOUR] teeth will be, when YOU see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but yourselves thrown outside.”

Hebrews 11:16, referring to Old Testament people says, “But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one belonging to heaven. Hence God is not ashamed of them, to be called upon as their God, for he has made a city ready for them.

Matthew 8:11 is particularly clear. I really don’t think there’s any way around the plain teaching of these verses: The Old Testament saints are in heaven.

Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that only the 144,000 are are born again (based on John 3:3). Most JWs are not part of the 144,000, and will readily admit that they are not born again, and if someone says they’re not born again, I believe them. The only alternative to being born again (or raised from spiritual death) is to be dead in sin, and those who are dead in their sins are sadly going to hell. (I wrote a tract on this topic called A Choice For Life, which you can download.)

For a fantastic opportunity to witness to Jehovah’s Witnesses, check out their 2008 convention schedule. One of the reasons they think they are in the true church is because they think they are the only ones who are out witnessing. You can help refute that idea for possibly hundreds of them by showing up at a convention and passing out tracts or witnessing. Even if you’re shy, or don’t know what to say to them, you could put tracts on their cars while they’re all inside.

13 thoughts on “Only 144,000 In Heaven (Give Or Take a Billion)

  1. Great post, Bill!

    As noted in my bio my mother is an excommunicated JW who has since become a born-again child of the One True and Living God.

    Evidently one sure fire way to NOT receive visits from the JW’s is to be an excommunicated JW – though I don’t recommend this course of action.

    CD

  2. Bill and CD,

    Of my two very best friends, one is a JW and the other is a Mormon.

    I always find it astonashing just how incredibly strong they are in their faith. Recent history proves with absolute, crystal clarity the fact that both religions are an outright fraud!

    There is absolutely NO getting through to either of them, but my greatest fear is that if I push too hard, it could negatively impact our friendship. What do you suggest I do to bear witness for these two.

    I believe that in the depths of their heart, their only true desire is to worship our Lord Jesus Christ. Can I find fault with that? Does God? That’s honestly a hard one for me to answer.

    Thanks!

  3. Another strong argument is Revelation 6:9–“When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.” These are those who have been martyred for Christ. Needless to say, there have been more than 144,000 martyrs in the history of rChrist’s church.

  4. I believe that in the depths of their heart, their only true desire is to worship our Lord Jesus Christ. Can I find fault with that? Does God? That’s honestly a hard one for me to answer.

    Rusty,

    Do you believe, despite the fact that the LDS and JW religions are “frauds” as you say – which assessment I wholeheartedly agree – that your JW and LDS friends are truly seeking and worshipping the One True and Living God of the Holy Bible and following the real Jesus Christ of scripture in their hearts? In other words would you consider your friends to be saved believers who would go to heaven today if they died?

    In Christ,
    CD

  5. Rusty,

    The more things I learn about how to refute their religions, the more I think it’s best to keep it simple. We are all sinners in need of a Savior. JWs and Mormons don’t believe in a Jesus that is adequate to pay for their sins. So, we need to remind them of their sinfulness, and one good way is to use the Ten Commandments. They are one of the things that bring us to faith in Christ (Galatians 3:24). I have done this with a lot of my friends, and none of them have stopped being my friends. On the other hand, we should be willing to give up our friends if that’s what is necessary. The risk of losing their friendship today is worth the possibility of having their frienship for eternity.

    You might want to listen to “Hell’s Best Kept Secret” if you haven’t already. You can download it at http://www.livingwaters.com/learn/hellsbestkeptsecret.htm

    Thanks,
    Bill

  6. CD

    answering your questions.

    Seeking?…
    Absolutely, no question, 100%, without a doubt, I KNOW that they are seeking One True and Living God

    Worshipping?…
    That question is way too big for me. I tell myself that it’s God’s to decide. My brain wants to say “YES!” but my heart tells me otherwise…

    All I can say is that I HOPE that they are found just in the eyes of our Lord.

  7. Thank you Bill. You make some very good points. This is a really tough one for me… I will listen to that message and get back to you.

  8. Hey Coram, I for one actually want the JWs to come visit me. But there is another sure-fire way to prevent JWs from coming to your home other than becoming an ex-JW. :o)

    Invite them in and share the gospel with them, and challenge their false doctrines with the truth from the Scriptures. You’ll find that their intention was never to have a “Bible study” with you but instead it was to indoctrinate you.

    You’ll never see a JW run faster than when he sees that you’re not just another wishy-washy, lukewarm, professing Christian who can be easily manipulated with every new wind of doctrine, but one who actually knows His Bible.

    Sadly, I know this first hand and no matter how desperately I want them to come visit me again, my house has been red-flagged. That’s part of the reason for this blog. Since the cults won’t come to me, I try to put the truth out there for them.

    – The Pilgrim

  9. Hi Pilgrim! Amen to your points!

    I should probably clarify my prior comment for the benefit of the readership, I too am thankful for the opportunity to witness to the JW’s when they “come a knockin'”. I was merely pointing out that when growing up they NEVER visited our house, no doubt because of my mother. Sadly this practice serves to demonstrate how the JW’s have even perverted the Biblical concept of church discipline which is meant to be an earnest effort at RESTORATION, not castigation.

  10. Rusty Says:
    April 30, 2008 at 8:46 am
    CD

    answering your questions.

    Seeking?…
    Absolutely, no question, 100%, without a doubt, I KNOW that they are seeking One True and Living God

    Rusty,

    Did you know that the JW’s and the LDS utterly reject the Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible? The JW’s reject the truth that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh. They believe Jesus was a high level created being, and angel to be precise and they teach that He was actually Michael the archangel. They also believe the Holy Spirit is an impersonal “force” and not a personal member of the Triune Godhead.

    Furthermore the LDS believe that Jesus was the spirit son of an exalted man who became the “Father God” of the Bible by following Mormon teachings and they teach that Jesus and Lucifer are the spiritual sons of the “Heavenly Father” and one of his innumerable “god-wives”. Further they teach that Jesus Christ was born of Mary after the “Heavenly Father” had physical sexual intercourse with her, impregnating her with Jesus. Sadly because of the Mormon belief that all human beings are the spirit children of the “Heavenly Father” and his innumerable wives who have been born into flesh and blood bodies, then it means that when they teach that the “Heavenly Father” had sex with Mary he was committing incest with his own daughter.

    This small sample only scratches the surface of false beliefs and teachings of these absolutely abominable and heretical cults. Based on this evidence I think it’s clear that these cultists are not seeking after the One True and Living God.

    Worshipping?…
    That question is way too big for me. I tell myself that it’s God’s to decide. My brain wants to say “YES!” but my heart tells me otherwise…

    You’re correct that One True and Living God decides what appropriate worship is, and according to His Word as contained in the Holy Bible no one in the LDS or JW cults is doing it – just as they’re not seeking Him through their false man-centered religions. In fact by continuing in their false religion they are actively stopping their ears and running away from Him and His Truth ever further into the depths of demonic unbelief.

    All I can say is that I HOPE that they are found just in the eyes of our Lord.

    If JW and LDS folks are to be found just in the eyes of the Lord then they – like anyone else – must repent of their sins, place their trust solely in the REAL Jesus Christ of scripture, and trust in His finished work on the cross alone instead of the works of self righteousness, lies, and unbelief taught by their hell spawned religions.

    I hope this helps.

    In Christ,
    CD

  11. Hi Coram,

    Yes, i am all too aware of their beliefs. We’ve had many, many discussions on that topic!

    I guess what I’m having trouble with is this. If in fact they do SEEK to know the One True Living God (as I am sure they do), then, through the manipulation or brainwashing or lies or deciet of man, they think they have found Him… are they held accountable for the fact that they were missled?

    They tried, they honestly tried…

    You can not convince them to put their faith in the Real Jesus if they think that they have already done just that.

    I’m not really disagreeing with you on anything here, and I very much apreciate your response. Like I said, It’s a tough one for me…

    Thank you all for your valuable insight on this topic!!!

  12. Greetings to all readers ! May i begin by saying i am not a “J.W”, however i am a lover of truth, scriptural & otherwise. I want to pose a few questions; (1) what would have been mankinds outcome, had adam/eve refrained from taking & eating the fruit from the tree of life ?(2) whilst Jesus(Yeshua) was on earth, did he teach his followers to pray,did he not begin by saying “our father in heaven let (YOUR NAME)be made [HOLY] (HALLOWED be THY name) = (sanctified); why is it that i can find the name JEHOVAH [YAWEH] as the supreme being (GOD) in the dictionary, yet struggle to find it it in many bibles. when i was in school i was issued a “new testament”by gideons, the name JEHOVAH was present in the book of psalms, i note the later additions have now removed GODS NAME, from where it was previously placed,also the KJ version; why? (3) what is meant by the reference to JESUS as the “[1st born of all creation"]. (4) If Jesus is the king of Gods kingdom,does he rule alone or does he have 144,000 others, who are bought from the earth by means of his blood as 1st fruits to God & the lamb? (5) If these individual members,co rulers/heirs complete the governing body of GODS KINGDOM @ such a time only privvy to GOD himself,(as for the day & the hour not the ANGELS NOR the SON[ONLY BEGOTTEN] KNOWS NOT). Is it not written;” the 4 winds are being held back until after these ones have been sealed” by jehovah personally, & isn’t it so, that these ones have the NAME of the FATHER & the SON written on their forheads? Then begins the great tribulation(the dismantling & removal of human rulership over mankind) leading up to the abyssing of the arch rival to Gods rulership over mankind (that serpent of old in eden) satan/devil,was he not cast down to earth by MICHAEL & his ANGELS…KNOWING HIS TIME LEFT REMAINS SHORT) having great anger going in search of the remaining ones of the seed ? why is it J.Ws won’t involve themselves with worldly affairs, such as politics/christmas/easter/other pagan saturated events, while most other “christians”remain “worshippers of the golden calf”‘NOW HAS COME TO PASS THE SALVATION & THE KINGDOM OF OUR GOD & THE AUTHORITY OF HIS CHRIST B’COZ THE ACCUSER OF OUR BROTHERS HAS BEEN CAST DOWN”when does this event occur or has it already taken place ?
    (6) Mary was told by an angel to name the child JESUS(Yeshua) was this his given name prior to his earthly commission, or was he known by another ? kind thanx..clive

  13. Dear Clive:

    Thank you for your comment. Since you distanced yourself from the JWs (I presume you mean Jehovah’s Witnesses) by stating, “May i begin by saying i am not a ‘J.W’,” I hope you don’t mind me asking, what do you consider yourself and what is your affiliation with them? Are you ex-JW, currently studying with JWs but haven’t committed, associate with JWs, have family members that are JWs, etc.?

    The reason I ask is that, although you deny being one, you use every one of their textbook arguments in your comment.

    Thanks.

    – The Pilgrim

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